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Mudskipper
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Karma Reply with quote
I just knew that the photo to this story would be a mugshot.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8368825.York_death_crash_biker_named/

A great loss - not.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/4298642.___Life_of_misery____thug_Thomas_Hodgson_is_jailed/

Commiserations to the ZX owner.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Win!

Ugly cunt eh.
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PostPosted: 14:41 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Pity he couldn't have just hit a tree Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 03 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
The bike he was riding was stolen and he got killed Smile Very Happy Oh deary me, how sad, NOT! Very Happy .

You never know he might have been in a lot of pain just before he died Thumbs Up .

If what the papers say is true then it`s a win situation for everybody except the poor ZX owner, hopefully insurance will cover that.
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PostPosted: 01:23 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Shame about the bike.

Aw, bless 'em. His nice mates left him flowers:
https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/8367075.Biker_killed_on_A1237_at_Clifton_Moor_was_riding_a_stolen_motorcycle/
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
good to see natural selection hasnt let us down Thumbs Up
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Fortuna
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PostPosted: 07:19 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Why is he called a biker? And why no mention that he was riding a stolen bike.
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PostPosted: 07:23 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Absolutely no symapthy whatsoever for that waste of space - The world is a better place without that P-O-S in it. Thumbs Down

Just hope that the original bike owner and the car drivers are OK
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Paxovasa
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Fortuna wrote:
Why is he called a biker?


Because he was on a motorbike and the media just love to label all who ride bikes whether legally or illegally as bikers. Probable helps them sell more papers.
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Fortuna
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 05 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Paxovasa wrote:
Fortuna wrote:
Why is he called a biker?


Because he was on a motorbike and the media just love to label all who ride bikes whether legally or illegally as bikers. Probable helps them sell more papers.

And quote statistics, he'll be included in motorcycle death counts now.
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well you're a lovely lot. It seems the correct punishment for anti-social behaviour is a painful and violent TA death - yes?

Are there any non Daily Mail reading extremists out there?

Why are you unable to deal with the concept of appropriate punishment for this guy's crimes? You don't really believe that it's death, do you? Do you want to return to bear-baiting and drowning witches? This is 2010, not 1600...
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
daveuprite wrote:


Are there any non Daily Mail reading extremists out there?

Why are you unable to deal with the concept of appropriate punishment for this guy's crimes? You don't really believe that it's death, do you? Do you want to return to bear-baiting and drowning witches? This is 2010, not 1600...



So what is appropriate punishment then? 10 hours community service?

Lets put it this way. Is he going to steal a bike ever again? No? = Win!
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
daveuprite wrote:
Well you're a lovely lot. It seems the correct punishment for anti-social behaviour is a painful and violent TA death - yes?

Are there any non Daily Mail reading extremists out there?

Why are you unable to deal with the concept of appropriate punishment for this guy's crimes? You don't really believe that it's death, do you? Do you want to return to bear-baiting and drowning witches? This is 2010, not 1600...


I believe it is death.

Everyone values life differently, and I value his life pretty low.
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PostPosted: 17:09 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Interesting reaction. Just because I don't believe in killing him does not mean I think 10 hours community service is appropriate either. Did I say that? No I didn't. Come on, you're not really this slow are you? It's not a complicated debate, after all.

As for those advocating death as the correct punishment for social behaviour and theft offences, perhaps you could show us your designs for the mass killing chambers you'll need for the many thousands of executions you'll be carrying out each year.

And before someone says it, yes I have had one of my bikes stolen and no I didn't want the culprit killed; I wanted him caught, punished appropriately and I wanted my bike back, that's all.

I despair at the extreme right-wing reactionism out there these days. And on a bikers' web-site too. Bikers used on the whole to be fairly liberal, tolerant and anti-establishment. Ah well...
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Paxovasa
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PostPosted: 17:18 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
daveuprite wrote:
Interesting reaction. Just because I don't believe in killing him does not mean I think 10 hours community service is appropriate either. Did I say that? No I didn't. Come on, you're not really this slow are you? It's not a complicated debate, after all.

As for those advocating death as the correct punishment for social behaviour and theft offences, perhaps you could show us your designs for the mass killing chambers you'll need for the many thousands of executions you'll be carrying out each year.

And before someone says it, yes I have had one of my bikes stolen and no I didn't want the culprit killed; I wanted him caught, punished appropriately and I wanted my bike back, that's all.

I despair at the extreme right-wing reactionism out there these days. And on a bikers' web-site too. Bikers used on the whole to be fairly liberal, tolerant and anti-establishment. Ah well...


I never said he should be killed, I am happy that he has died. If he continued with stealing then it would have caused a lot of people a lot of misery.

It has also saved us tax payers a lot of money for court cases and keeping him in prison.

So all in all a very good result Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I don't think death was the right way for this poor defenceless little lad................I think full body paralysis for the rest of his life would be about right for nicking a bike! Shame a bike had to die
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 07 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
bgfs wrote:
I don't think death was the right way for this poor defenceless little lad................I think full body paralysis for the rest of his life would be about right for nicking a bike! Shame a bike had to die


Good God. It gets worse!

Just as long as you lot realise the consequences of what you are saying. What ever you do, don't join the minute's silence on November the 11th for those who died fighting fascists like yourself.
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PostPosted: 06:47 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
daveuprite wrote:
Interesting reaction. Just because I don't believe in killing him does not mean I think 10 hours community service is appropriate either. Did I say that? No I didn't. Come on, you're not really this slow are you? It's not a complicated debate, after all.

As for those advocating death as the correct punishment for social behaviour and theft offences, perhaps you could show us your designs for the mass killing chambers you'll need for the many thousands of executions you'll be carrying out each year.

And before someone says it, yes I have had one of my bikes stolen and no I didn't want the culprit killed; I wanted him caught, punished appropriately and I wanted my bike back, that's all.

I despair at the extreme right-wing reactionism out there these days. And on a bikers' web-site too. Bikers used on the whole to be fairly liberal, tolerant and anti-establishment. Ah well...


You're an idiot. He died as a direct result of his own actions, he wasn't executed by the state.
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
bazza wrote:


You're an idiot. He died as a direct result of his own actions, he wasn't executed by the state.


Crikey. OK, it looks like we have to slow this right down to a snail's pace for you.

1) Of course he died as a result of his own actions, and of course he was not executed by the state. I never said otherwise.

2) But other contributors to this thread have expressed their view that death was the right and appropriate punishment for this guy because of his anti-social and theft crimes.

3) Therefore my response to them was that they consider carefully what they were really saying, i.e. that state execution was the right punishment for these crimes. I checked that that was what they really meant and it was confirmed by subsequent postings.

There we go. Simple really.

I don't in any way support this guy for his anti-social behaviour or for stealing a bike, though I am sorry that he died on it. What sticks in the throat is the extremist fascist reaction of so many who feel he deserved to die for his (relatively minor) crimes and that this should become the state's appropriate punishment for them. That's shocking, and worrying.
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bazza
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PostPosted: 10:51 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
daveuprite wrote:
bazza wrote:


You're an idiot. He died as a direct result of his own actions, he wasn't executed by the state.


Crikey. OK, it looks like we have to slow this right down to a snail's pace for you.

1) Of course he died as a result of his own actions, and of course he was not executed by the state. I never said otherwise.

2) But other contributors to this thread have expressed their view that death was the right and appropriate punishment for this guy because of his anti-social and theft crimes.

3) Therefore my response to them was that they consider carefully what they were really saying, i.e. that state execution was the right punishment for these crimes. I checked that that was what they really meant and it was confirmed by subsequent postings.

There we go. Simple really.

I don't in any way support this guy for his anti-social behaviour or for stealing a bike, though I am sorry that he died on it. What sticks in the throat is the extremist fascist reaction of so many who feel he deserved to die for his (relatively minor) crimes and that this should become the state's appropriate punishment for them. That's shocking, and worrying.


You really are a fucking idiot, aren't you? People are expressing approval that the consequence of the bike thief's actions resulted in his death. Not, as you're implying, that we want armed death-squads roaming the streets summarily executing hoodies, chavs and bike-thieving scrotes.
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PostPosted: 10:58 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
bazza wrote:
Not, as you're implying, that we want armed death-squads roaming the streets summarily executing hoodies, chavs and bike-thieving scrotes.


But we wouldnt object too much if they introduced it

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
bazza wrote:
Not, as you're implying, that we want armed death-squads roaming the streets summarily executing hoodies, chavs and bike-thieving scrotes.


I wouldn't mind that.

The guy nicked a bike and died, I won't be losing any sleep over it tonight.

If it was a cute kitten that had died, then I'd be upset.
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have nothing to add to this really.

Was his own fault and I don't have any sympathy.

Cheers,

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PostPosted: 12:36 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
My kids watch a program with a sketch called stupid deaths , this has to be a candidate. Steal a bike than die on it in a crash , real stupid.
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 08 Sep 2010    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well Bazza - I think the above two or three posts (see PinkFloyd) make my point for me perfectly. Nothing really to add. Q.E.D.

OK bored with this now - I'm off. if you insist on having the last word, go ahead - it's yours...
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