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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Ride without indicators Reply with quote

Just wondering if it is possible to ride without rear indicators a friend of mine has just told me you don't have to have them on the rear.

With mine being broken and need to be at university for 8am tomorrow it would save getting the bus at 7am for a 10 mile ride.

Anyone done it before, if you have any problems that occurred.
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PostPosted: 20:08 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding is if they are fitted they are required to be operational for an MOT. But most folks on the road don't use them so will it make any difference - well it will give the car drivers more of an excuse to pull out on you and if something (god forbid) happened then you may be at fault if you don't signal.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im pretty sure any bike built after 1986 must have indicators.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

trikeschick wrote:
My understanding is if they are fitted they are required to be operational for an MOT. But most folks on the road don't use them so will it make any difference - well it will give the car drivers more of an excuse to pull out on you and if something (god forbid) happened then you may be at fault if you don't signal.


Well the front are working as normal so anyone turning out should be able to see which way I'm going well hopefully if they open their eyes.

I wouldn't even consider taking the bike If I hadn't got be there for 7am, it's tempting.
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I often give a hand signal to re-enforce them anyway, especially in bright sun they can be easy to miss.
You'll probably be fine a few days like that but want fixing ASAP - as above when fitted they should work (sensible because people would assume you aren't turning if there but not on!)

I suppose you could tape over them to show "not working" but that does remove the option to plead that you hadn't noticed or they went just now officer.


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PostPosted: 20:19 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If direction indicators are fitted they must meet the requirements of this inspection, but need not be fitted to a machine which:
. cannot exceed 30mph / 50kph, or
. was first used before 1 August 1986, or
. 'off road' machines which are designed
to carry only the rider.
. 'off road' machines with side car designed to carry the rider and one passenger in the side car.

off road machines are constructed or adapted primarily for use off roads (whether by reason of its tyres, suspension, ground clearance or otherwise).


Direct from the MOT testers handbook, if theres ONE indicator fitted, then there must be all four fitted in working order with a switch, no indicators fitted and the switch blanked off is legal, so long as you use correct arm signals as well.

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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 20:21 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
I often give a hand signal to re-enforce them anyway, especially in bright sun they can be easy to miss.
You'll probably be fine a few days like that but want fixing ASAP - as above when fitted they should work (sensible because people would assume you aren't turning if there but not on!)


I intend to get them fixed was trying fix them all day today but one of the wires split, going see If I can take it the garage on my break might cost me an arm and a leg. But doubt I'll be able to fix it any other way.

Got to say noticed earlier that the indicators in the sun didn't look like they were on.

Thanks for all the replies if you see me online tomorrow you will know it went well.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have indi's.

I use hand signals and sometimes a slowing down signal if there is something ahead which requires some indication to those behind.


Lots of my route is dedicated lanes, country lanes and straight aheads anyway..
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PostPosted: 20:33 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing that im wondering about is round abouts and hand signals, I have two of them on my journey other than that its pretty much straight lines.
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PostPosted: 20:40 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheSmiler wrote:
The only thing that im wondering about is round abouts and hand signals, I have two of them on my journey other than that its pretty much straight lines.


Depends how big they are..



Obviously indicate before you get there, but don't do it coming off because the chances are you'll loose control. Only do indicate off if it is an esspecially large roundabout.

Don't bother indicating off otherwise, no body else does- They can have some of their own medicine.
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TheSmiler
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PostPosted: 20:48 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
TheSmiler wrote:
The only thing that im wondering about is round abouts and hand signals, I have two of them on my journey other than that its pretty much straight lines.


Depends how big they are..



Obviously indicate before you get there, but don't do it coming off or you might loose control. Only do that if it's a very large roundabout.

Don't bother indicating off otherwise, no body else does- They can have some of their own medicine.


Well the round abouts are simple organised lanes split of for the individual direction I would say one is small and the other is medium. That has put my mind to rest a little now thank you.
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 02 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be on your guard!

Even though hand signals aren't the best option, it certainly gets attention and that can only be a good thing for visual acceptance.

Always do extra life savers esspecially when coming off from a roundabout, as you're not indicating when you're indeed coming off.


Good luck soldier. Out.
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PostPosted: 00:54 - 03 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Smiler; been on an excursion today.
Went to see if I could get a Cam-Shaft for Snowie's Super-Up-Super-Dream-Motor.... but for some reason a Silver-Super-Dream seems to have decided to hitch a ride home with me! This IS where Super-Dreams come to die!
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You have managed to disconnect the back indicators.
https://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff446/smilingsam1/IMG_0151.jpg
Circle top Right: That female bullet connector is the alternative alarm 'power' connection if utilising keyless starting; it should be empty
Orange banded wire beneath it, plugged into female bullet on yellow wire string to 'spare' male bullet not connected to anything is the T piece for the alarm 'flash' into the indicator circuit.
Male on Yellow ought to go to Orange female in the connector shroud, I suspect the empty socket I can JUST see tinged of orange wire under, beneath red circle top right.
Empty connector behind that LOOKS like its a green wire, which is the earth cable. Have you checked your stop & tail lamps becouse thats where the common earth for them ought to go IF its the wire I think it is.
SO... plugging yellow into orange ought to solve the problem you had this morning of ONE indicator not working.
As for BOTH now not working... I suspect poking around you have pulled the earths out....
Both indies have full return earth wires; black with red stripe if I recall; terminating in lucar spades not bullets, and connecting to a four way somewhere around that connector shroud.

Meanwhile; Stoke? Indicators?! HAND SIGNALS?!

Look; using INDICATORS round there simply CONFUSES people; idea of HAND SIGNALS?!?!

You'd cause a multiple PILE UP on the D-Road! Laughing
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