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Nai
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Motorway limit may raise to 80mph Reply with quote

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/government-plans-raise-motorways-speed-limit-180035602.html

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LONDON (Reuters) - The government said on Thursday it was looking to raise the speed limit on the country's motorways to 80 mph and that it intended to bring in the measure in 2013 if it got the backing of the public and campaigners.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

roll on, still, makes no difference to me, i'll still be speeding.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woop, a safe 90+ on the motorway then.
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PostPosted: 20:17 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

still gonna speed anyway!
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PostPosted: 20:50 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the speed limits could be raised to 100mph without any trouble. But I think there would need to be stricter enforcement when it comes to queues and any other kind of traffic management.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

if people who did 60 in the right hand lane, just stayed in the left hand lane, people used their rear view mirrors and lorry's we'rent allowed to overtake, there would be no need for speed limits.
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

a raise in the speed limit will make no difference you'll still end up stuck behind some lane hogging twat that doesnt know how to drive on a motorway. They should penalise people that drive in the right hand lanes when not overtaking, that'll have more of an effect on the congestion than anything.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got the dry heaves from the marketwank. Why can't they just say "We're no longer going to tax the normal behaviour of reasonable adults." ?

That said, if they actually do it, they'll get a Governman Point.
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan_Davies wrote:
if people who did 60 in the right hand lane, just stayed in the left hand lane, people used their rear view mirrors and lorry's we'rent allowed to overtake, there would be no need for speed limits.


How does that get an abusive rating? Slow down with the mouse clickin there dannyp929.
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PostPosted: 22:04 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a bad thing but I suppose you have to remember that the speed limit is based on everyone and every vehicle. Unfortunately this includes super alert and skilled road users or those who think their mirrors are for doing make up or checking the caravans still there!
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PostPosted: 22:06 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's about time, these laws were passed when compared to today, car safety was in its infancy. Could easily have the limit at 100mph, brakes, abs and traction control have come a long way since 1966.
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

This has got nothing to do with helping the poor UK motorist. all the greedy Government are thinking about is filling their pockets with the extra fuel taxes from the vehicles travelling faster and using more fuel.

I can quite easily say that the UK is the most stressful country to drive in out of any of the E.U countries I have been to. The increased speed limit is welcome but pointless without sorting out the middle lane / fast lane hogging tards and trucks overtaking.

In Germany HGVs are prohibited from overtaking on some routes and guess what, traffic flows far more easily.
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darylw27 wrote:
I think it's about time, these laws were passed when compared to today, car safety was in its infancy. Could easily have the limit at 100mph, brakes, abs and traction control have come a long way since 1966.


Yeah but don't blame the car, blame the man who drove a car so fast on the motorway that the government deemed it unsafe.


The mental actions of men are still the same, and just because brakes are better doesn't mean we can choose to go faster.


The very fact that people accelerate hard and have to brake suddenly is more of an issue in my opinion. Cars from 1966 accelerated gently and glided at a nice speed and didn't even need to brake as a driver of 1966 has better forsight.

But then, the man of 1966 has a much slower and relaxing life then we do now.
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
Darylw27 wrote:
I think it's about time, these laws were passed when compared to today, car safety was in its infancy. Could easily have the limit at 100mph, brakes, abs and traction control have come a long way since 1966.


Yeah but don't blame the car, blame the man who drove a car so fast on the motorway that the government deemed it unsafe.


The mental actions of men are still the same, and just because brakes are better doesn't mean we can choose to go faster.


As soon as I pressed submit I just thought about that. Very true, when most people lack the attention to drive safetly at 60 nevermind 100. I was basing my thoughts on a utopia where people don't drive like dicks.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

80 on dual carriageways like the M4 and M25 is a bit dodgy
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having travelled extensively on German Autobahns I have found that the standard of driving is far higher because people have to use there mirrors and concentrate as when they pull out there may be a M5 coming down lane 2 at 155 Mph.
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
Darylw27 wrote:
I think it's about time, these laws were passed when compared to today, car safety was in its infancy. Could easily have the limit at 100mph, brakes, abs and traction control have come a long way since 1966.


Yeah but don't blame the car, blame the man who drove a car so fast on the motorway that the government deemed it unsafe.


The mental actions of men are still the same, and just because brakes are better doesn't mean we can choose to go faster.


The very fact that people accelerate hard and have to brake suddenly is more of an issue in my opinion. Cars from 1966 accelerated gently and glided at a nice speed and didn't even need to brake as a driver of 1966 has better forsight.

But then, the man of 1966 has a much slower and relaxing life then we do now.


Although I wasn't here then (born in '87 Very Happy ) I totally agree about the foresight. Nothing pisses me off more than tossers getting right up the arsehole of someone, only to break hard when they realise perhaps they should be 5 feet away rather than three. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 29 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Livefast123 wrote:
This has got nothing to do with helping the poor UK motorist. all the greedy Government are thinking about is filling their pockets with the extra fuel taxes from the vehicles travelling faster and using more fuel.

I can quite easily say that the UK is the most stressful country to drive in out of any of the E.U countries I have been to. The increased speed limit is welcome but pointless without sorting out the middle lane / fast lane hogging tards and trucks overtaking.

In Germany HGVs are prohibited from overtaking on some routes and guess what, traffic flows far more easily.


They also teach car drivers how to merge into lanes properly, using the zipper method, not like the stupid fecks in this country who either race right to the very last point then try to force their way in or come to a grinding halt miles from the end as soon as they realise whats coming and block every car behind them until someone feels sorry enough for them to let them in.
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blurredman wrote:
But then, the man of 1966 has a much slower and relaxing life then we do now.


The man of 1966 had several advantages though: he drank half a bottle of Scotch before setting out to get a nice buzz going, then chain smoked all the way there to stay sharp. Dance!
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PostPosted: 08:15 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The problem is if the limit is 80 - people will do 90.
If it's 90, people will do 100, etc etc.
Let's face it, people use the speed limit as a guide line, rather than a limit. No matter what it's set at, people will break it, and you have to take that into consideration when choosing a speed limit.
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PostPosted: 08:30 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marmalade wrote:
80 on dual carriageways like the M4 and M25 is a bit dodgy


Filtering at 80 was no issue Shifty
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with others about European countries having better drivers, They only use overtaking lanes when they overtake and the thing where lorries cant overtake is a great idea.

Although I would love to punch the guy who came up with the give way to the right rule in Belgium Shocked
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately this is going to be counter-balanced by a 'big expansion' of 20mph zones.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/exclusive-new-80mph-motorway-limit-20mph-in-towns-2362980.html
I was getting annoyed enough in Reading with the few 40mph trunk roads in and out of Reading all being reduced to 30mph for the majority of the length of them for no discernible reason.

Livefast123 wrote:
Having travelled extensively on German Autobahns I have found that the standard of driving is far higher because people have to use there mirrors and concentrate as when they pull out there may be a M5 coming down lane 2 at 155 Mph.

Or they may have unlimited sections because the standard of driving in Germany is better? Smile
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PostPosted: 09:21 - 30 Sep 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The old priority to the right to the right is a stupid EU idea but it makes you concentrate on your driving and not your make up / Ipod / copy of the Sun / latest Iphone app etc Thumbs Up

They are phasing it out across France and Germany at the moment which is a shame as it takes the fun out of driving there Neutral

I like the idea in Germany where you can drive as fast as you want on some parts of Autobahn but if you crash then they come down on you like a ton of bricks (if your not dead). Puts some personal responsibility out there.

It doesn't really help in this country when the police have no tools to deal with middle lane drivers and the CPS are not interested in prosecuting the main cause of congestion on our motorways along with HGV's overtaking.
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