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BikeNewbie
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PostPosted: 19:33 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Hyosung Chinese? Reply with quote
Well I have finally found a bike within my price range and nearby.

It's a Hyosung GT 125.

What are these bikes like?

Are they Chinese?

I have looked for weeks and weeks for a Honda CG and nothing has come up. So fed up now.

Thanks for any info on this bike!
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PostPosted: 19:40 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okay, Well Korean? Good? Bad?

Should I avoid? Some info would be good mate Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
They're ostensibly made in a factory that has Suzuki bikes coming out the other door. Their 650s are definitely "heavily influenced" by the SV650. Owners mostly seem to like them, they reportedly got better after 2007, and parts are starting to appear on WeMoto. Insurance shouldn't be a problem, and they really are big bikes.

I'd likely go for one, but pay bottom dollah and don't spend money on it, you won't get it back when you sell.
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yeah this one is cheap. But can anyone provide info on them? A Link or anything?

As I might go view it tomorrow?
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had a Hyosung RT125 and it was awesome, the only problems I had with it were not due to the bike itself, but due to a clueless dealer 'fixing'...in other words, when I got the bike, the rear wheel was misaligned, and the chain was too tight and rear brakes were not adjusted right.
Twice I got the dealer to set it up right, and other times it was as bad if not worse than before.
In the end I manned up and did it myself (first time lol) and it was fine until I sold it.
It survived a winter outdoors with minimal rust (no worse than the Virago I have now) and ran all through winter.

So my experience is overall a positive one of Hyosung bikes...just make sure if you get it from a dealer that he doesn't try and fob you off...still, I guess it's not all bad, after all it did prompt me to do stuff on my own..

oh and a quick edit, I did end up having to get the exhaust welded, as it cracked, but that was probably due to my poor bike washing and letting it get corroded more than a problem with the bike itself.

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PostPosted: 19:59 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
How much would you say to spend?

So it isnt Chinese Rubbish then?
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I wouldn't pay as much as an equivalent used jap bike, but in my (non expert) opinion, they're better and worth more than a chinese bike..not that ALL chinese bikes are crap mind, just most Smile
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Also, is it the GT 125 (unfaired) or the GT 125 R (faired sports bike look)?
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Sports one.

All I want answered. And I havent seen it answered yet is.

Is it just as good as a Jap Bike?

Or is it just like the Chinese Rubbish?

I havent heard much of this Bike before.
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Asharin
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikeNewbie wrote:
The Sports one.

All I want answered. And I havent seen it answered yet is.

Is it just as good as a Jap Bike?

Or is it just like the Chinese Rubbish?

I havent heard much of this Bike before.

No.
No.

Happy now?
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
from what iv heard on here there decent bikes, my own experience with korean engineering is there build quality isnt too bad but never going to be as good as jap.
in my opinion if the price is right its worth a punt Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I would be more happy if you just fuck off Thumbs Up

And Thanks mate. I will see about it. Cheers for all the decent replies!
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikeNewbie wrote:
I would be more happy if you just fuck off Thumbs Up

And Thanks mate. I will see about it. Cheers for all the decent replies!


Jesus Christ, asharin made two decent posts answering your question before the reply which bothered you so much (despite actually answering your question perfectly).
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
His reply was somewhat sarcastic. No need for it. No one else was like that.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
kerr wrote:
frmy own experience with korean engineering is there build quality isnt too bad but never going to be as good as jap.


Funny that, everybody said the same thing about jap quality vs English quality when they first invaded our car market Wink
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PostPosted: 22:23 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikeNewbie wrote:
His reply was somewhat sarcastic. No need for it. No one else was like that.


Oh, I think that might change now.

You're looking for simple answers to complex questions. What do you mean by "good"? Mechanical reliability, frame longevity, quick, rewarding to ride or easy to ride (they're not necessarily the same), cheap to insure, economical to run, easy to sell on, parts availability? Define your terms if you want a sensible answer.

Heck, what's a "Japanese" bike? AFAIK, all of the current Japanese branded 125s are made in China or India anyway. Suzuki apparently slap their badges on bikes straight from the Hyosung factory. Are you comparing against new Japanese-branded, or the same age as the Hyosung, or the same price as the Hyosung. For that matter, you haven't even told us the year and price.

And "Chinese rubbish"? The YBR 125 is made in China. You presumably mean Chinese branded, but again, you haven't specified your requirements or budget. If I told you that Dihao Motorcycle bikes can offer reasonable value for money, and are sold as Huoniao HN125-8, Haotian Vixen HT125-8 and Lexmoto Arrow and Vixen, would you even bother reading it?

If you want specific answers, ask specific questions. If you're happy with generalised hand waving, carry on as you are.

And if you demand one word answers, then spit your dummy when you get them, well gosh darn, expect to be treated with all the respect that you've earned here.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
It is, I must say, weird what sets people off!
I for one am greatful for the knowledge input, I understand these factories share production output, good to get an insight into which ones tbh! I read somewhere the Lexmoto (?) factory used to make the parts for Honda or something like that, that in itself is reasurring I guess Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 06:18 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
BikeNewbie wrote:
I would be more happy if you just fuck off Thumbs Up

And Thanks mate. I will see about it. Cheers for all the decent replies!


Now see, I did give you sensible answers on Hyosung bikes in general, and you gave a snarky reply, so I gave a snarky but accurate reply in response.
It's true though, better than chinese bikes, not as good as jap bikes..couldn't really be said much simpler, perhaps you'd like it in caps to make it stand out more? Very Happy
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PostPosted: 06:34 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I like the look of Hyosung bikes. The first bike I looked at was a Hyosung GV250 Aquila. I decided that a cruiser style probably wasn't the best choice for learning on though, so I bought a YBR125 . I'd quite happily own a Hyosung now though. I've looked at the GT250 and GV250 as possible next bikes for when I pass my A2 test.
I'd say try it on for size and see how you like it. Don't get hung up on brands.
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PostPosted: 07:04 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okeydokey wrote:
It is, I must say, weird what sets people off!


I've got a 17yo son, probably the same age as this miserable git.
He's the same, any slight deviation from the answer he wants and he throws his toys out the pram and has a tantrum.

They're all full of attitude twats at this age. (mainly)
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PostPosted: 07:44 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
Okeydokey wrote:
I read somewhere the Lexmoto (?) factory used to make the parts for Honda


Nope, Lexmoto is a UK re-distributor. They take bikes made by a variety of Chinese manufacturers and slap a common branding on them. They don't make anything, directly or indirectly. Most (maybe all) of their bikes can still be had from other sellers, usually for a little less.

Standard operating practice for UK importers has been to just sell bikes with whatever ZingPing branding comes as standard, and to rebrand themselves as necessary to slough off responsibility for support. Some importers run two or three online shop-fronts at the same time, I assume so that they can just dump the debt and fold one of them as necessary.

Lexmoto are trying something new - running a franchised dealer network, and building a brand. If they can stick it out, then they may provide some pushback to the manufacturers to improve quality. At a minimum, it's in their interest to only sell bikes that they think won't be back for warranty work every 2 weeks.

All that said, I still think a Hyosung GT125 is likely to be a better bet than anything in the Lexmoto range. Wink
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PostPosted: 08:07 - 14 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had the Naked GT 125. Came shipped with a dodgy reg/rec but an hour in the garage sorted that!

Never had any faults that I noticed. I bought it because of the size. Found the YBR a little small for me on CBT so got a larger bike before doing DAS.

Went out for 4 hours in the pouring/pissing/storm and never noticed any loss in grip, even on the standard rubber!

Don't expect to get your money back when you sell though, people don't really want to buy them...

Probably because of attitudes like the ones expressed here!


I'd have another..if it was given to me or I could get it REAL cheap..
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