Resend my activation email : Register : Log in 
BCF: Bike Chat Forums


Module 2!! 13/10/11-Failed[rebooked- PASSED!!

Reply to topic
Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers Goto page 1, 2  Next
View previous topic : View next topic  
Author Message

RePT
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 22:39 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Module 2!! 13/10/11-Failed[rebooked- PASSED!! Reply with quote

Hi there guys,

Are there any tips you can share with me before i go on to do my module two test??

Had my module one today, and booked mod 2 for this thursday!

Tips/advice/precautions..the lot! Need to fill my brain up real fast!

Also, im attempting this without any training. So i am kind of expecting to fail my first attempt, which should get me used to the place and procedures of the test! However, i wont let dissapointment get the good side of me! Wish my success and post away your thought!

Thanks


Last edited by RePT on 09:09 - 27 Oct 2011; edited 3 times in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

sidewinder
World Chat Champion



Joined: 24 Aug 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 23:06 - 11 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Firstly congrats on your mod 1 Very Happy

don't forget to take all your paper work with you .both parts driving of your license as well.

Arrive at bit early to chill out a bit..

Treat the examiner as another vehicle on the road..

And his voice as a sat nav.

Dont worry if you get in the wrong lane.Or make a wrong turn .As long a you do it safely that's ok.

Don't forget to cancel your indicators double tap the switch to make sure

Get your obs right

They like you to be smack on the speed limit.If safe to do so..

Keep 1 1/2 bike lengths when stopped in traffic

Remember your 2 second rule 4 if it's wet

Don't worry if you make a mistake it's probably not as bad as you thought

Best of luck and enjoy Thumbs Up Very Happy Thumbs Up
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alex_B
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 15 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 07:06 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good time for a thread and maybe we can get it filled with some questions and answers Thumbs Up

When riding on the test you come to a small road and it has split speed humps. The type where a car can straddle them and a bike can just go round them.

On the mod 2 test are you allowed to go off your correct road position to avoid these? I don't mean swerve at the last second btw Very Happy

I hear peeps saying do not do this and just go over but I've heard an instructor say different.

Good luck for yours mate Thumbs Up
____________________
My Lane Position is always AWESOME!!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

snikks
Spanner Monkey



Joined: 15 Jan 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 08:44 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:
Good time for a thread and maybe we can get it filled with some questions and answers Thumbs Up

When riding on the test you come to a small road and it has split speed humps. The type where a car can straddle them and a bike can just go round them.

On the mod 2 test are you allowed to go off your correct road position to avoid these? I don't mean swerve at the last second btw Very Happy

I hear peeps saying do not do this and just go over but I've heard an instructor say different.

Good luck for yours mate Thumbs Up


Essentially, you are allowed to go over, or go around. If you go around on the test, you must do so with appropriate safety checks. Therefore if you go around them, you're giving yourself another chance to cock up and miss checks.

Instructors sometimes say to go around because your goal is to show your examiner how you'd ride normally, so that he can judge the safety of your riding, and not to ride to a test.

Personally I'd argue that the test is already quite artificial, and the examiner knows this already and can take it into account without you having to make things harder for yourself.
____________________
- CBT: 02/01/11 Theory: 26/04/11 Mod 1: 19/05/11 Mod 2: 19/08/11
- 2007 Honda XL125V Varadero (Sold), 1999 Yamaha FZS600 Fazer (Sold), 2001 CBR600F
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

J.M.
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Mar 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:15 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

To the OP, take a look at my Mod 2 thread - that helped/reassured me a lot for my test (Also with no lessons) https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=230098

On your test make sure that you stay a good distance away from car doors (leave enough room for them to open), if you don't then you'll get a minor for this.

Always indicate when turning, even if you're turning right in a right hand only lane (you'll get a minor if you don't).

If you're turning right after traffic lights but oncoming traffic is stopping you doing so then DO NOT stay behind the line, go forwards to the turning point (but not into traffic). If you stay behind the line and your lights goes from green to red then you'll fail - if it stays green and the oncoming traffic light goes to red you'll luckily escape with a minor.

Make movements out (to overtake cyclists etc.) smooth and remember your life savers.

Well, hopefully some of that helps!

Alex_B wrote:
When riding on the test you come to a small road and it has split speed humps. The type where a car can straddle them and a bike can just go round them.

On the mod 2 test are you allowed to go off your correct road position to avoid these? I don't mean swerve at the last second btw Very Happy


From what I've learnt, you're supposed to go over these for your test. Also remember that they're speed humps, so show your examiner that you're slowing down by turning your break light on in good time (even if you don't slow much).
On my test I made sure that for every speed hump I took my correct road position for if the bump wasn't there, showed the instructor my brake lights and always used the mirrors. Didn't get a brownie point for it, but I got no minors for doing it Thumbs Up
____________________
2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:38 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good stuff.

Keep a careful eye out for things like unmarked junctions (treat as a give way) or complex / multiple roundabouts. Cautious in, confident out.

Also remember that the test is very subjective. There's almost nothing that you can do if you get stitched up, so don't fail the 'attitude' component. Put on the safest safety gear that you can find, hi vis up, and yes-sir-no-sir until you have the pass certificate in your hand.

Finally: enjoy it. It's just another bike ride, there's no real trick to it.
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

J.W.Pepper
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:01 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

As all the above have said really!

Cant get much better advice.. but don't forget the lifesavers!!! If your in doubt about wether you should do one or not.. do one!

They like to take you down 20 mph roads aswell so be mindful of the limits.

Apart from that - GOOD LUCK Very Happy
____________________
CBT - 01/05/2011 | Theory - 07/05/2011 | Mod 1 - 01/07/2011 | Mod 2 - 08/07/2011
Hyosung GT125 | Honda CBR600f F3
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alex_B
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 15 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 12:59 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

See that Jordan, that's my point mate. Very Happy

Some say go over, some say go around as the examiner will wonder why the hell you're making your ride uncomfortable. (so I'm told)

I think I'll go over but I'd love to hear what others did on their Mod 2?

See what ya done to me Jordan, you got me delving to deep into it now mate Laughing

Nother question then:

When at lights that have ONLY just changed to red would it be better to be in Neutral or keep in 1st gear?
Lights would be unknown (as I don't know the route) on whether it was gonna be a long hold or a short though so bear that in mind.
____________________
My Lane Position is always AWESOME!!


Last edited by Alex_B on 13:09 - 12 Oct 2011; edited 1 time in total
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

anthony_r6
World Chat Champion



Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 13:06 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to lifesaver to make sure no one is over taking you, then come out into the middle of the road. On my test I'd just go over them, no harm no foul. I like to swerve at the last second though Laughing
____________________
Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
Dougal : "Jack scared of fighting? I don't think so, Ted."
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

J.W.Pepper
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 05 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:27 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Regarding the gears at lights...


I was told to always stay in 1st at traffic lights etc & never go into neutral unless you have parked/got off etc...

I did go into neutral a few times while training and realised why you shouldnt. Ended up fumbling around with gears and it was a little bit of a mess really Sick

I never touched neutral on my Mod 2 except for when I was to pull over and stop the bike so he could brief me about the independant riding part. Didn't get any minors so stay in 1st Very Happy


Good luck with the test! Thumbs Up Mr. Green Thumbs Up
____________________
CBT - 01/05/2011 | Theory - 07/05/2011 | Mod 1 - 01/07/2011 | Mod 2 - 08/07/2011
Hyosung GT125 | Honda CBR600f F3
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Cadbury
Crazy Courier



Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 14:58 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.W.Pepper wrote:



I never touched neutral on my Mod 2 except for when I was to pull over and stop the bike so he could brief me about the independant riding part.



For me, my independent riding section was straight out of the test centre, so I didn't even get an opportunity or the need to go into neutral at all in the test.

As others have said, Look out for 20 Zones, the one I went through was marked on the road, not a signpost.

Keep good lane positioning, and make sure you dont cut corners/white lines on junctions.

Lifesavers lifesavers lifesavers!

And finally, relax. I got all my nerves out the way on my 20 minute practice session with my instructor beforehand, just treat it like a normal ride and im sure you will do fine.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

J.M.
World Chat Champion



Joined: 27 Mar 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:05 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:
See that Jordan, that's my point mate. Very Happy

Some say go over, some say go around as the examiner will wonder why the hell you're making your ride uncomfortable. (so I'm told)

I think I'll go over but I'd love to hear what others did on their Mod 2?

See what ya done to me Jordan, you got me delving to deep into it now mate Laughing

Nother question then:

When at lights that have ONLY just changed to red would it be better to be in Neutral or keep in 1st gear?
Lights would be unknown (as I don't know the route) on whether it was gonna be a long hold or a short though so bear that in mind.


The way I'm thinking about it is logically really, the humps are there to slow traffic down (but smaller to allow emergency vehicles with a wider wheel base over them fast). Whilst I'm not an examiner, if I was examining someone and they went around a speed bump then I'd be thinking to myself that they're purposefully avoiding traffic calming measures to retain their speed - there's probably a minor for it somewhere. Smile

As for the gears: I kept my bike in 1st gear at all times at traffic lights. Clutch in, left foot down, right foot on the brake. I did go into neutral a few times when the examiner asked me to pull over into a safe place - but that's only because I know my bike really well and can get neutral no worries, and still not stall if I don't find it. I probably wouldn't bother with neutral at all though, it made the going procedure more tricky because I had to select my gear before I left. Not a problem but it's just that extra thing to think about Laughing
____________________
2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

RePT
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:42 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

jordanmoore wrote:
To the OP, take a look at my Mod 2 thread - that helped/reassured me a lot for my test (Also with no lessons) https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=230098

On your test make sure that you stay a good distance away from car doors (leave enough room for them to open), if you don't then you'll get a minor for this.

Always indicate when turning, even if you're turning right in a right hand only lane (you'll get a minor if you don't).

If you're turning right after traffic lights but oncoming traffic is stopping you doing so then DO NOT stay behind the line, go forwards to the turning point (but not into traffic). If you stay behind the line and your lights goes from green to red then you'll fail - if it stays green and the oncoming traffic light goes to red you'll luckily escape with a minor.

Make movements out (to overtake cyclists etc.) smooth and remember your life savers.

Well, hopefully some of that helps!

Alex_B wrote:
When riding on the test you come to a small road and it has split speed humps. The type where a car can straddle them and a bike can just go round them.

On the mod 2 test are you allowed to go off your correct road position to avoid these? I don't mean swerve at the last second btw Very Happy


From what I've learnt, you're supposed to go over these for your test. Also remember that they're speed humps, so show your examiner that you're slowing down by turning your break light on in good time (even if you don't slow much).
On my test I made sure that for every speed hump I took my correct road position for if the bump wasn't there, showed the instructor my brake lights and always used the mirrors. Didn't get a brownie point for it, but I got no minors for doing it Thumbs Up


I went through the entire thread of yours, before making this topic. very informative and thanks to the other guys who posted there also!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

anthony_r6
World Chat Champion



Joined: 31 Mar 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 15:49 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do not HAVE to go over them, if it is clear you can go around them. Likewise in a car. When I did my test I had to go into the middle of the two lanes where the car would barely come off the road rather than slowing down to go over them.

They're there to make you aware of your speed, yes. But if the road is 30MPH then you can do 30MPH over them or around them, if you choose.

As said though, it's much safer and less hassle to stick to your lane and go over them Thumbs Up
____________________
Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
Dougal : "Jack scared of fighting? I don't think so, Ted."
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

Alex_B
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 15 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 17:52 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all gents.

I'm in danger of over analysing Laughing but I'll be back with more later Thumbs Up
____________________
My Lane Position is always AWESOME!!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

TheManWithThe...
Brolly Dolly



Joined: 30 Aug 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 18:06 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

The most important thing about your speed is to stick to, or below the speed limit by judging what speed it is safe to do with the road conditions.

I got failed for doing 35 in a 40 through a rural village (with SLOW) markings across the road
and for doing 30 in a 30 when there were parked cars on either side of the road and lots of shadow from trees so reduced visibility.

Other than the "dangerous" for use of speed from those two, i got 1 minor.

Just be sensible, be patient and remember those observations!

Whenever you're changing road positioning for a turning or to changing lanes:
Mirror of the direction, indicator, shoulder, move to the side, then if your turning onto a side road, lifesaver before committing to the turn. (don't do a lifesaver when turning onto a road, just position yourself on the edge of the road and keep good ops when you're pulling out)

With speedbumps, i was told to always go through the centre, unless there is a car comming the other way and always do a lifesaver of the direction and move over in plenty of time.

And check both mirrors when you're approaching traffic lights, even if they are on green. it shows you are aware of the situation behind you (if you have some twat tailgating you ect) if you need to stop.

And right shoulder check before setting off EVERY TIME.


good luck Thumbs Up
____________________
MBK Nitro 50, Sold. Kawasaki ER-5, Honda ST1100
"Anyone can jump a motorcycle! The trouble begins when you try to land it..."
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Sherwood Bambi
Nova Slayer



Joined: 22 Aug 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 21:29 - 12 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't fault anything said on here - all the tips are excellent.

From my own experience (it took 3 attempts to pass Mod 2) - remember the observations and lifesavers, be very careful and observant of speed limits and don't get frustrated by traffic or obsessed with "Making Progress".

If you're held up by traffic at junctions, etc don't try to force it and risk blowing the test !

Don't worry about taking wrong turns - as long as you're riding safely that won't matter !

Most of all - the very best of luck to you !
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

RePT
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:24 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for all the replys guys Smile very informative.

however, i failed. which was all my fault, so im going to accept this like a good human being.

'show me tell me'

he asked me about the horn, brake fluid and carrying a pillion.

messed up on the pillion part, i said shock absobers and he asked for another thing which i couldnt remember..

then i rememberd it two mins after, (chain might need adjusting) I was going to tell him, but i forgot.

anywayy..I wasnt able to meet speed limits, i failed to meet a good enough speed on the carraigeway which had a national speed limit(70).

another thing i messed up on was my lanes ¬.¬..for some odd reason i just love being in the right hand lane.

going to rebook asap Smile
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:39 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You wont fail the show me tell me, im sure thats just minor marks.

Its the lane choosing and speeds you screwed up on.

Just get up to the limit, just dont go over and you'll be fine Thumbs Up Rev the bike up to 70, keep it pinned in 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th if you have to.

Always stay in the left lane unless you are being told to go right etc.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

pinkyfloyd
Super Spammer



Joined: 20 Jul 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:40 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

RePT wrote:


then i rememberd it two mins after, (chain might need adjusting) I was going to tell him, but i forgot.


Chain?

Do you not mean lights?

https://www.begin-motorcycling.co.uk/tests_sc.htm

That should help.
____________________
illuminateTHEmind wrote: I am just more evolved than most of you guys... this allows me to pick of things quickly which would have normally taken the common man years to master
Hockeystorm65:.well there are childish arguments...there are very childish arguments.....there are really stupid childish arguments and now there are......Pinkfloyd arguments!
Teflon-Mike:I think I agree with just about all Pinky has said.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website You must be logged in to rate posts

RePT
Nitrous Nuisance



Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:48 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
RePT wrote:


then i rememberd it two mins after, (chain might need adjusting) I was going to tell him, but i forgot.


Chain?

Do you not mean lights?

https://www.begin-motorcycling.co.uk/tests_sc.htm

That should help.


yep definetly chain as he mentioned "at the back of the bike"

ive been through those questions, and a few threads on here with lots of them.

just a nerve moment i think haha. rebooked in two weeks time!
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

nickGT
Nova Slayer



Joined: 07 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 09:55 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it would have been tyre pressure rather then the chain Thumbs Up

Fiar play for being honest though and not blaming someone or something else. Best of luck with your retest.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts

felicity
Scooby Slapper



Joined: 13 Jul 2011
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:02 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

RePT wrote:
yep definetly chain as he mentioned "at the back of the bike"


You don't adjust the chain to carry a pillion. Why would you need to do that?

At the back of the bike you need to check tyre pressure and suspension pre-load, and put the pillion pegs down. At the front you need to check tyres, and mirror and headlight angle.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

P.addy
Red Rocket



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:06 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

rtarnell wrote:
You don't adjust the chain to carry a pillion. Why would you need to do that?

At the back of the bike you need to check tyre pressure and suspension pre-load, and put the pillion pegs down. At the front you need to check tyres, and mirror and headlight angle.


I'd adjust mine as I don't really mess around with my suspension settings on the rear, and my chain is fairly tight as it is.
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail You must be logged in to rate posts

Rogerborg
nimbA



Joined: 26 Oct 2010
Karma :

PostPosted: 10:24 - 13 Oct 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

rtarnell wrote:
RePT wrote:
yep definetly chain as he mentioned "at the back of the bike"


You don't adjust the chain to carry a pillion. Why would you need to do that?


Uh, because the geometry of the swing arm, and thus the distance between sprockets, changes when you add candy.

You adjust your chain with someone of your weight sitting on the bike, right? Confused

Anyway, you learned on the test, which still works out better than paying for lessons.

What was up with the NSL fault? Bike not up to it (what are you on? It "should" be capable of 100kph for an A2 test ) or limp wrist?
____________________
Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike
 Back to top
View user's profile Send private message You must be logged in to rate posts
Old Thread Alert!

The last post was made 14 years, 159 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful?
  Display posts from previous:   
This page may contain affiliate links, which means we may earn a small commission if a visitor clicks through and makes a purchase. By clicking on an affiliate link, you accept that third-party cookies will be set.

Post new topic   Reply to topic    Bike Chat Forums Index -> New Bikers All times are GMT
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum

Read the Terms of Use! - Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group
 

Debug Mode: ON - Server: birks (www) - Page Generation Time: 0.21 Sec - Server Load: 1.88 - MySQL Queries: 14 - Page Size: 141.6 Kb