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 RePT Nitrous Nuisance
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Firstly congrats on your mod 1
don't forget to take all your paper work with you .both parts driving of your license as well.
Arrive at bit early to chill out a bit..
Treat the examiner as another vehicle on the road..
And his voice as a sat nav.
Dont worry if you get in the wrong lane.Or make a wrong turn .As long a you do it safely that's ok.
Don't forget to cancel your indicators double tap the switch to make sure
Get your obs right
They like you to be smack on the speed limit.If safe to do so..
Keep 1 1/2 bike lengths when stopped in traffic
Remember your 2 second rule 4 if it's wet
Don't worry if you make a mistake it's probably not as bad as you thought
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Good time for a thread and maybe we can get it filled with some questions and answers
When riding on the test you come to a small road and it has split speed humps. The type where a car can straddle them and a bike can just go round them.
On the mod 2 test are you allowed to go off your correct road position to avoid these? I don't mean swerve at the last second btw
I hear peeps saying do not do this and just go over but I've heard an instructor say different.
Good luck for yours mate  ____________________ My Lane Position is always AWESOME!! |
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All good stuff.
Keep a careful eye out for things like unmarked junctions (treat as a give way) or complex / multiple roundabouts. Cautious in, confident out.
Also remember that the test is very subjective. There's almost nothing that you can do if you get stitched up, so don't fail the 'attitude' component. Put on the safest safety gear that you can find, hi vis up, and yes-sir-no-sir until you have the pass certificate in your hand.
Finally: enjoy it. It's just another bike ride, there's no real trick to it. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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 J.W.Pepper Nitrous Nuisance

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As all the above have said really!
Cant get much better advice.. but don't forget the lifesavers!!! If your in doubt about wether you should do one or not.. do one!
They like to take you down 20 mph roads aswell so be mindful of the limits.
Apart from that - GOOD LUCK  ____________________ CBT - 01/05/2011 | Theory - 07/05/2011 | Mod 1 - 01/07/2011 | Mod 2 - 08/07/2011
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See that Jordan, that's my point mate.
Some say go over, some say go around as the examiner will wonder why the hell you're making your ride uncomfortable. (so I'm told)
I think I'll go over but I'd love to hear what others did on their Mod 2?
See what ya done to me Jordan, you got me delving to deep into it now mate
Nother question then:
When at lights that have ONLY just changed to red would it be better to be in Neutral or keep in 1st gear?
Lights would be unknown (as I don't know the route) on whether it was gonna be a long hold or a short though so bear that in mind. ____________________ My Lane Position is always AWESOME!!
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You have to lifesaver to make sure no one is over taking you, then come out into the middle of the road. On my test I'd just go over them, no harm no foul. I like to swerve at the last second though  ____________________ Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
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 J.W.Pepper Nitrous Nuisance

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Regarding the gears at lights...
I was told to always stay in 1st at traffic lights etc & never go into neutral unless you have parked/got off etc...
I did go into neutral a few times while training and realised why you shouldnt. Ended up fumbling around with gears and it was a little bit of a mess really
I never touched neutral on my Mod 2 except for when I was to pull over and stop the bike so he could brief me about the independant riding part. Didn't get any minors so stay in 1st
Good luck with the test!  ____________________ CBT - 01/05/2011 | Theory - 07/05/2011 | Mod 1 - 01/07/2011 | Mod 2 - 08/07/2011
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| Alex_B wrote: | See that Jordan, that's my point mate.
Some say go over, some say go around as the examiner will wonder why the hell you're making your ride uncomfortable. (so I'm told)
I think I'll go over but I'd love to hear what others did on their Mod 2?
See what ya done to me Jordan, you got me delving to deep into it now mate
Nother question then:
When at lights that have ONLY just changed to red would it be better to be in Neutral or keep in 1st gear?
Lights would be unknown (as I don't know the route) on whether it was gonna be a long hold or a short though so bear that in mind. |
The way I'm thinking about it is logically really, the humps are there to slow traffic down (but smaller to allow emergency vehicles with a wider wheel base over them fast). Whilst I'm not an examiner, if I was examining someone and they went around a speed bump then I'd be thinking to myself that they're purposefully avoiding traffic calming measures to retain their speed - there's probably a minor for it somewhere.
As for the gears: I kept my bike in 1st gear at all times at traffic lights. Clutch in, left foot down, right foot on the brake. I did go into neutral a few times when the examiner asked me to pull over into a safe place - but that's only because I know my bike really well and can get neutral no worries, and still not stall if I don't find it. I probably wouldn't bother with neutral at all though, it made the going procedure more tricky because I had to select my gear before I left. Not a problem but it's just that extra thing to think about  ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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| jordanmoore wrote: | To the OP, take a look at my Mod 2 thread - that helped/reassured me a lot for my test (Also with no lessons) https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=230098
On your test make sure that you stay a good distance away from car doors (leave enough room for them to open), if you don't then you'll get a minor for this.
Always indicate when turning, even if you're turning right in a right hand only lane (you'll get a minor if you don't).
If you're turning right after traffic lights but oncoming traffic is stopping you doing so then DO NOT stay behind the line, go forwards to the turning point (but not into traffic). If you stay behind the line and your lights goes from green to red then you'll fail - if it stays green and the oncoming traffic light goes to red you'll luckily escape with a minor.
Make movements out (to overtake cyclists etc.) smooth and remember your life savers.
Well, hopefully some of that helps!
| Alex_B wrote: | When riding on the test you come to a small road and it has split speed humps. The type where a car can straddle them and a bike can just go round them.
On the mod 2 test are you allowed to go off your correct road position to avoid these? I don't mean swerve at the last second btw  |
From what I've learnt, you're supposed to go over these for your test. Also remember that they're speed humps, so show your examiner that you're slowing down by turning your break light on in good time (even if you don't slow much).
On my test I made sure that for every speed hump I took my correct road position for if the bump wasn't there, showed the instructor my brake lights and always used the mirrors. Didn't get a brownie point for it, but I got no minors for doing it  |
I went through the entire thread of yours, before making this topic. very informative and thanks to the other guys who posted there also! |
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You do not HAVE to go over them, if it is clear you can go around them. Likewise in a car. When I did my test I had to go into the middle of the two lanes where the car would barely come off the road rather than slowing down to go over them.
They're there to make you aware of your speed, yes. But if the road is 30MPH then you can do 30MPH over them or around them, if you choose.
As said though, it's much safer and less hassle to stick to your lane and go over them  ____________________ Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
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Thank you all gents.
I'm in danger of over analysing but I'll be back with more later  ____________________ My Lane Position is always AWESOME!! |
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The most important thing about your speed is to stick to, or below the speed limit by judging what speed it is safe to do with the road conditions.
I got failed for doing 35 in a 40 through a rural village (with SLOW) markings across the road
and for doing 30 in a 30 when there were parked cars on either side of the road and lots of shadow from trees so reduced visibility.
Other than the "dangerous" for use of speed from those two, i got 1 minor.
Just be sensible, be patient and remember those observations!
Whenever you're changing road positioning for a turning or to changing lanes:
Mirror of the direction, indicator, shoulder, move to the side, then if your turning onto a side road, lifesaver before committing to the turn. (don't do a lifesaver when turning onto a road, just position yourself on the edge of the road and keep good ops when you're pulling out)
With speedbumps, i was told to always go through the centre, unless there is a car comming the other way and always do a lifesaver of the direction and move over in plenty of time.
And check both mirrors when you're approaching traffic lights, even if they are on green. it shows you are aware of the situation behind you (if you have some twat tailgating you ect) if you need to stop.
And right shoulder check before setting off EVERY TIME.
good luck  ____________________ MBK Nitro 50, Sold. Kawasaki ER-5, Honda ST1100
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thanks for all the replys guys very informative.
however, i failed. which was all my fault, so im going to accept this like a good human being.
'show me tell me'
he asked me about the horn, brake fluid and carrying a pillion.
messed up on the pillion part, i said shock absobers and he asked for another thing which i couldnt remember..
then i rememberd it two mins after, (chain might need adjusting) I was going to tell him, but i forgot.
anywayy..I wasnt able to meet speed limits, i failed to meet a good enough speed on the carraigeway which had a national speed limit(70).
another thing i messed up on was my lanes ¬.¬..for some odd reason i just love being in the right hand lane.
going to rebook asap  |
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You wont fail the show me tell me, im sure thats just minor marks.
Its the lane choosing and speeds you screwed up on.
Just get up to the limit, just dont go over and you'll be fine Rev the bike up to 70, keep it pinned in 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th if you have to.
Always stay in the left lane unless you are being told to go right etc. |
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yep definetly chain as he mentioned "at the back of the bike"
ive been through those questions, and a few threads on here with lots of them.
just a nerve moment i think haha. rebooked in two weeks time! |
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I think it would have been tyre pressure rather then the chain
Fiar play for being honest though and not blaming someone or something else. Best of luck with your retest. |
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| rtarnell wrote: | | RePT wrote: | yep definetly chain as he mentioned "at the back of the bike" |
You don't adjust the chain to carry a pillion. Why would you need to do that? |
Uh, because the geometry of the swing arm, and thus the distance between sprockets, changes when you add candy.
You adjust your chain with someone of your weight sitting on the bike, right?
Anyway, you learned on the test, which still works out better than paying for lessons.
What was up with the NSL fault? Bike not up to it (what are you on? It "should" be capable of 100kph for an A2 test ) or limp wrist? ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 159 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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