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As soon as you have a 'new' licence:
- First Provisional,
- Updated for new licence group
- Returned after endorsement
- Returned after change of address
DOES NOT MATTER
PHOTO-COPY IT
I actually carry a photo-copy of my licence in my wallet. I have been stopped by police & asked to show my licence, and offered them the copy, telling them its a copy..... and comment I am NOT obliged to carry original.....
{Another precaution; I dont HAVE to carry licence, so I don't. Driving licence is accepted as proof of identity by so many places, very easy if you loose your wallet for original licence to be used for identity fraud. Also easily lost, also if you offer it a copper who asks, there have been instances where they have retained it and without original, you have no reference what was on it before hand}
With a photo-copy you have evidence of what licence groups you had before any change, and some 'evidence' to be able to get any clerical errors 'corrected'. ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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| jordanmoore wrote: | Mike, could she not send off a photocopy of the Theory+Mod1+Mod2 certificates to say "hey look, I passed this and I passed this then. Correct it." |
If she still has them
| jordanmoore wrote: | Needless to say, I'll be doing the photocopy thing from now on.. after I buy a printer/photocopier of course  |
Corner shops, newsagens, particularly ones near court offices, often have photocopiers and charge 20p a copy or something.
Public library; often have coin operated photocopiers.
As a student; college libraries usually have card op copiers....
Or for the REALLY impoverished / desperate...... you ask a freind, relative, work collegue or teacher to copy your licence for you as a favour!
But you have a computer; and yes, colour printer/scanners are pretty cheap and very useful! ____________________ My Webby'Tef's-tQ, loads of stuff about my bikes, my Land-Rovers, and the stuff I do with them!
Current Bikes:'Honda VF1000F' ;'CB750F2N' ;'CB125TD ( 6 3 of em!)'; 'Montesa Cota 248'. Learner FAQ's:= 'U want to Ride a Motorbike! Where Do U start?' |
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The DVLA fook up - is how my Dad lost his entitlement to riding a motorbike. They don't accept photocopies of licences as evidence.
The best way is to have two licences. Basically send off for a new licence and pay the £20. Then when you have two, you have peace of mind that if one goes astray you have the 'other' as back-up/proof.
B1 is a milk float, it entitles you to drive a milk float (funnily enough) and a quad/trike.  ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Never, ever surrender a driving license, just tick the "lost" box (then "find" it later if necessary). But I guess you know that now.
Whether the DVLA will "accept" a photocopy or not, if they refuse to correct their error then I'd suggest that you consider billing them for a lifetime of extra insurance costs, kick off a County Court action, then watch them suddenly reconsider their position. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike |
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Definitely keep hold of the pass certificates... it saved me when they lost my entitlement.
As Roger said, starting any form of court dealings with them with proof at all... will cause them to hide like hermits and they will crumble Especially if you have been riding for years and have proof of it  |
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | As soon as you have a 'new' licence:
- First Provisional,
- Updated for new licence group
- Returned after endorsement
- Returned after change of address
DOES NOT MATTER
PHOTO-COPY IT
I actually carry a photo-copy of my licence in my wallet. I have been stopped by police & asked to show my licence, and offered them the copy, telling them its a copy..... and comment I am NOT obliged to carry original.....
{Another precaution; I dont HAVE to carry licence, so I don't. Driving licence is accepted as proof of identity by so many places, very easy if you loose your wallet for original licence to be used for identity fraud. Also easily lost, also if you offer it a copper who asks, there have been instances where they have retained it and without original, you have no reference what was on it before hand}
With a photo-copy you have evidence of what licence groups you had before any change, and some 'evidence' to be able to get any clerical errors 'corrected'. |
Don't photo-copy it, keep your old one and tell those worthless incompetant scum that you lost it. Then when the lying arrogant filth tell you to take your test again you can produce the old licence (that you just 'found') and tell them to go fuck themselves. ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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| Teflon-Mike wrote: | As soon as you have a 'new' licence:
- First Provisional,
- Updated for new licence group
- Returned after endorsement
- Returned after change of address
DOES NOT MATTER
PHOTO-COPY IT
I actually carry a photo-copy of my licence in my wallet. I have been stopped by police & asked to show my licence, and offered them the copy, telling them its a copy..... and comment I am NOT obliged to carry original.....
{Another precaution; I dont HAVE to carry licence, so I don't. Driving licence is accepted as proof of identity by so many places, very easy if you loose your wallet for original licence to be used for identity fraud. Also easily lost, also if you offer it a copper who asks, there have been instances where they have retained it and without original, you have no reference what was on it before hand}
With a photo-copy you have evidence of what licence groups you had before any change, and some 'evidence' to be able to get any clerical errors 'corrected'. |
People have tried this before with the DVLA and failed, hard.
As far as the DVLA are concerned (and they are right to an extent) you can edit pictures so easily to a convincing standard nowadays that it's not good practice.
People who have lost their motorcycle entitlement and have had photocopies of both parts of their license stating they have a motorcycle entitlement have been told it makes no odds at all, simple.
As far as they are concerned, if you don't have the pass certificate or the sheet the examiner signed that can be corroborated with the actual examiner, then you didn't pass. It blows but that's how they operate. ____________________ "Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul."
Current Vehicles: '89 Kawasaki KDX200, '99 Yamaha XV535, '00 Honda ST1100 Pan-European, '08 Suzuki GSX-R1000, '08 Mitsubishi Lancer GS4 2.0 TDCi, '15 BMW 1 Series 116d Sport Turbo.
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I'm shocked the DVLA can get away with this. I know that's probably naive of me but still
I was keeping my pass certificates anyway but now I shall cherish them. I think I'll also "lose" my licence and get another just in case. ____________________ Current Bike: Kawasaki Versys |
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Think I'm going to be doing that too! Looks like I'll have a little collection going.. bike, car, trailer (if I can afford it!)  ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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They can get away with it because people let them.
Civil courts are there for our benefit, they're not just tools of the State. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Contrary to all the evidence here, my dad had all of his categories restored by sending the DVLA a photocopy of his license. They had originally lost not only his license but all evidence of all of his driving entitlements. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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The last post was made 14 years, 80 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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