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 Posted: 14:27 - 11 Oct 2011 Post subject: Blacklisting countries.... where do you REFUSE to return to. |
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So, I shan't bore you with my ranting, and I just generally want to put the 6 months misery of Vietnam behind me... but today in the airport leaving it, I burnt my VN Simcard in the smoking lounge.
I actually speak VN fairly well, but I'd still never return there. If I won a free holiday, I'd give the tickets away to someone (whom I didn't like).
Worst country ever, worst people ever, and Hanoi is the worst city I've been to. If you don't like riding ratty old motorbikes or eating dog, there's literally nothing there for you.
So, any advances? Any countries you just hated with a passion and couldn't wait to leave? Anyone lived somewhere and got to know the locals, and just decided they should all be wiped out in a nuclear holocaust (fingers crossed eh China )
Writing this from Bangkok, a city I used to find a miserable hole... yet after a week sat in Hanoi it seems a lovely peaceful place full of cheer and kindness. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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UK.
I kid, I've never left the country really... unless you count Wales  |
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Beijing the constant hassling everywhere and anywhere.
Having a white face causes the following to occur:
Oh me have special special price for you for tourist tat, a woman in some scum hole neighborhood literally grabbed my arm and wouldn't let go unless I bought something. It got to the point where I had to raise my fists at her to get her to let go. She then said something probably nasty to me.
Oh Hi we're students and we'd like to practise our English with you, why don't you come for some tea or a beer? (Tea house scam).
People stopping and starring and pointing at you quite overtly.
Just going for a drink you'll get propositioned by WGs. Or passport hunters who instantly fall in love with you in an effort to marry you and get your passport.
Approaching shops people see a white face? They turn round their price signs with a much higher price cus all westerners are rich right  ____________________ "It's easy to attack and destroy an act of creation. It's a lot more difficult to perform one" |
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That, unfortunately, is cross the board tourist ghetto stuff in ALL SE asia (or at least anywhere I've been).
It's the trap of 'no one speaks English outside the ghetto, so you have to stay in the ghetto'.
Doug, VN was the only place I've ever been where holding a cogent conversation with the local, outside the tourist area, still saw them try to shaft you. Fuck, in Thailand if you can pronounce 'hello' or 'how much' half correctly you get local price.
Vietnam, jesus, they are just the dumbest bunch of aggressive short sighted 'we're poor and it's the yanks fault so therefore all white people owe us money', and they weren't just going for a bit higher... they'd triple the price. And they wouldn't just see if you caught on, they'd hang with it.
The wounds are still pretty sore from that country, but I spent the whole ride up enjoying it in spite of the Vietnamese, but constantly praying for nuclear death to be rained down on them. I'm damn near in love with one (viet) married girl, and would love to extract her from the hell hole... but the thought of raising a half vietnamese kid (or the faint possibility of it) fills me with dread. I call them alsation people, as alsations also apparently have an IQ of 70.
I actually took to trying to goad on a mugging in hanoi just so I could bury a few of the bastards. Seriously, I may whinge a lot about pretty much everywhere, it's me, erm, foible. But much as I whinged about Thailand, I kept my SIM and friends from the country, and always knew I'd probably return. Vietnam... I hope it sinks into the sea. ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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So, about Japan...
Glad you made it in one piece bro.  ____________________ "There's the horizon! Ride hard, ride fast and cut down all who stand in your way!" |
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Dominican Republic.
Terrible time anywhere outside the resort, ended up being out for about 40 mins before the endless tirade of people trying to physically drag me into shops, or beach sellers trying to rent/sell crap and then not leaving you alone, before we got in a taxi back to the safety of the resort.
And I still remember the agony of squirting bisto out of my arse for a good 10 days after getting food poisoning there. Sure, that could have happened anywhere in the world, but it didn't, and at some point I expect I'll be telling my kids kids how grandpa phil squacked his pants in the Dom Rep.
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| Hetzer wrote: | So, about Japan...
Glad you made it in one piece bro.  |
Haha, true that holmes. True that.
My last day, taking the bike to flog it, some ozzy bint was after a helmetless lift to the other hostel, through the mental one way systems of Hanoi in rush hour. She got all miffed when I told her to go shaft herself.
My fate tempting in Vietnam has been fairly amazing, and somehow I still live and came out with (most of) my money.
Japan can wait until the ozzy's have made me yearn for a quieter life. Right now, I want drunken punch ups and manual labour. Clowning about looking like a porcelain doll for a bunch of midgets in the vague hope of a passport girlfriend.... that can wait a bit
Ghost... I'm speechless. You stayed on a resort...  ____________________ China traffic/travel bike vid - When I make a sweeping statement, please add the word 'statistically' in to the sentence before you bitch...
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Hong Kong - which I visited when it was ours.
I arrived expecting:
Little people and all things empire.
https://www.gakei.com/bhk/ybhk01.jpg
I received:
Tall people, blood everywhere, mcdonalds, being shot at, drugged and almost raped by 3 fat old women, and expensive backpacker hostels.
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Most of the world.
No doubt some liberals will be along shortly to complain and call you a racist, since negative things about countries except Britain and races except whites simply does not compute for them  |
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France - hate the french so much I haven't gone, and never will!
Unless i steal a tank and attempt to invade ____________________ 2007 YBR 125 (sold), 2011 ER6-N (sold), LHD 1999 GSX750F (sold), ??? ??? |
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South Korea wasn't a bundle of laughs.
They're not (as a whole) bad people, it's just such a joyless place. They've got a massive chip on their shoulder about Japan, which is weird since they seem determined to emulate the worst bits - they work hard, not smart, throw an infinite number of code monkeys at every problem, punish failure rather than rewarding success, and all without even the Japanese pretence about enjoying it. Suffering seems to be its own reward.
Eating out was OK, but Samsung canteen food was a wide selection of bell ends, claws and beaks with seven varieties of salty brown gloop on the side. Suffering again. I'd be dead now if it wasn't for Pringles.
Seoul is bleurgh. Battery chicken crowded, noisy, filthy, polluted as hell, it's all new build and new money. After seeing the few "heritage" bits, I quickly lost interest - maybe if I'd been a biker then, I might have gone exploring further, but the transport system isn't particularly weigukin friendly.
And the bars, Jesus wept, middle aged businessmen drinking themselves insensible so they can forget about another day of pointless grind and ritual humiliation. As to that, Big Bosses would call meetings and demand lengthy reports just so that they could ostentatiously have a kip and snore loudly. Nobody said a damn thing about it, they just kept presenting their flowcharts to a sleeping audience.
All in all, not the best 3 months of my life. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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Nope, can't say that there's a single country I've been too where I've not been able to extract any positive experiences, nor is there a single country I've visited that I wouldn't happily return to.
But, I've never been to Thailand or Vietnam, mostly because there's nothing about the country that makes me think 'Yeah, I really want to go there'.
@ Rogerborg - I spent a fair few months is S.Korea back in '99, my experience of the country is vastly different from yours. I'd agree that Seoul is noisy, filthy, polluted and crowded, but then I think the same about London, and pretty much any major city that I've visited, anywhere in the world.
I'd agree about the chip about Japan, but given their history, it's hardly surprising.
I did go exploring, and saw pretty much most of the country, I'd say the transport system is fantastic, cheap and pretty easy to get along with - I managed travel by bus, coach, railway, taxi, plane and boat all without issue.
I found the people to be, in the main, extremely warm, friendly and welcoming - I got numerous offers to stay at people's houses and to eat and drink with them. I had yogwan (guesthouse) owners ask me to come and eat breakfast and dinner with them when I'd only paid for the room only.
Sure, there were some negatives - I went to a few places only to be told in no uncertain terms that white people were not welcome, but these were by far and away a tiny minority.
As for the food, I absolutely love Korean food, I still get cravings for it even now, and have to take a trip to the nearest restaurant or order up some supplies by mail order.
Still, each to their own, and all that. Dull world etc
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 87 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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