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https://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=11087501
Ready made, just add water. Lay a sheet of polythene down, empty bag onto it, make a dent in the middle and slowly add water, mix with a spade. When it's like a thick porridge, slop it into the bucket. ____________________ Chances are quite high you are not in my Monkeysphere, and I don't care about you. Don't take it personally.
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Go to B&Q`s and buy ready mixed fence-post mix.
It comes in 25kg bags and is ready mixed, so all you have to do is add water and stir it up.
does`nt get much easier than that ____________________ I am the sum total of my own existence, what went before makes me who I am now! |
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Concrete density - designers generally assume 2.4 tonnes per cubic metre - the cube test results I got in last week were 2385 and 2350 kg/m3.
If you want to fill a barrel, you will know the volume. I would recommend postcrete if you dont have anything to mix it with - handmixing any volume is hard work and you would be cheaper buying postcrete rather than hiring a mixer. Allow a bag for every 10 litres and follow the instructions - pour in some water, pour in the bag, quick stir, job done.
I'd put a bag in the bottom, chuck any bricks, stones etc on top, keeping it away from the sides if you can, more water, more bags etc.
If you are casting a chain in, put a bar through one of the links within the concrete to resist pulling it out. ____________________ '82 C50, '81 CB100, '84 GS125, '95 NTV650, '00 Bandit 600, '06 SV650, '56 Z1000, '89 NTV600
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You couldn't pull a nail out of cast-in concrete with a crowbar, there'd be no need for a bar through any chain. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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Fatpies; I've done a fair bit of concreting myself, and it's easy enough to do without a mixer. You do need to get the proportions right though. The 20Kg bag on the B&Q site linked is far too much, for a medium sized bucket you only need enough to bind your ballast (that's the sand and gravel.) I'd say about 5Kg at most, and you should be able to find such sizes in B&Q. Most cement and 'postcrete' will have instructions and ratios on them, but I'd use about a 1:2:4 ratio, cement:sand:gravel. That should give you a good strong mix. Then just slowly add water until it starts to bind together.
For mixing it, I've done it on a flat concrete floor, or you can use a board if you're good with a shovel (you need to be quick to stop the water running away!) The best way would be a large wide bucket, or better a wheelbarrow.
If you're anywhere near the southwest I'd be willing to do it for you for a couple of beer tokens. YouTube is also a good place to find vids on the technique of it, but stick to those ratios I mentioned ____________________ Current: VFR800 2008 13.7k and rising rapidly!
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- If it rains before the concrete is dry but after it's started to set, this will weaken the finished product as it works its way in to the mix and breaks up the bind.
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Bollocks! Portland Cement (the binder in concrete) is hydraulic, which means it will cure (gain strength) under water. This is how we are able to pour concrete under water. A high saturation of moisture is required for the chemical reactions in the cement to continue, which is why moisture retaining membranes are applied to large surface area pours.
Cover it with a plastic bag if it is going to rain. ____________________ '82 C50, '81 CB100, '84 GS125, '95 NTV650, '00 Bandit 600, '06 SV650, '56 Z1000, '89 NTV600
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It's all a bit academic when all the OP is looking for is a big heavy lump of 'something'. ____________________ a.k.a 'Geri'
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The Shaggy D.A. wrote: | blade023 wrote: | Fatpies; I've done a fair bit of concreting myself, and it's easy enough to do without a mixer. You do need to get the proportions right though. The 20Kg bag on the B&Q site linked is far too much, for a medium sized bucket you only need enough to bind your ballast (that's the sand and gravel.) |
Except the link I put was for ready mixed stuff that you just add water to. 20kg isn't enough for a decent deterrent. - if a gang is lifting a 180kg bike into a van, the 20kg won't make much difference to them. |
Got slightly mixed up there, I saw 'blue circle' and just thought cement. The ready mix stuff only has sand in it as far as I know, if you add a coarse ballast as well it can give a stronger mix. Plus at 1:2:4 you'd be using 5kg cement, 10kg sand, and 20kg gravel. I wasn't thinking about 'deterrent' I was thinking about 'average bucket size.' Since you put it that way, I'd agree that 20kg isn't really much of a deterrent to the determined.
To be honest it's too expensive and impractical to make a bike unstealable, I personally have mine chained to a ground anchor. I've also been making a door for the bike shelter (and will be working on the side wall soon.) It's not to stop thieves, it's to keep the bike out of sight. That and a 'cctv' notice could be pretty effective, especially with a dummy camera I have spare. ____________________ Current: VFR800 2008 13.7k and rising rapidly!
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