Nearly bit the dust with a pillion

[Pol Anorl]

dropping the ex gf off back at home on the way down a long hill coming to a mini roundabout at the bottom, theres a damn opal zafira at the bottom indicating left and about to go, its clear he starts to pull out, hes already in what i would call the "safe to go your fine" area and a car came up to the roundabout from the right indicating to go up the hill, so it wouldn't affect us at all.

So were both moving out (hes already ahead of me i don't need to brake much)

Then bam! he slams his brakes on causing me to slam mine on and the car behind me doing the same.

My front wheel locked up and started to slide out, i did the wierd leg thing trying to hold it up managed to hold it up.

He got a bit of the horn and abuse so hes sat there still! in mid roundabout for a good 8-10 seconds just letting cars go past, they have to go round him to get past as hes sat in the damn lane.

Finaly started ot move when he decided to do 20 in a 40 zone, i overtake and get a shit load of abuse thrown at me.

in my mirror i see an opal badge right up my ass so i tell him to back off to which he starts to flash me, i moved over to the left so did he, so i moves over to the right he followed.

By now i was damn furious, my leg was hurting from trying not to drop my bike and hes sat up my ass like a prick.

He started to come past me so i let him go he pulled in quite close then slammed his brakes on again! i took evasive action shooting round the right hand side followed by a left fist dismounting his wing mirror from his car.

At that point he dropped well back and stopped to pick it up.

My story of last night.

No i wasn't riding too close before anyone suggests it, this roundabout if its clear from the right its fine to just go so theres no need to stop as its a flat miniroundabout.

Awaits everyone blaming me

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[N cee thirty]

everytime you post something else happens

step away from the bike before you kill someone.
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[JoeDougieDoug...]

Wow, sounds like a douche of a driver to me... Sadly you get drivers that have no idea how to compose themselves on the road. I would guess that maybe he was D.U.I?

Well done for not crashing mate, but maybe knocking his wingmirror off was avoidable.
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[Pol Anorl]

Yay blame put on me because some foreign idiot slammed his brakes on and nearly caused me to crash into him and a car to crash into me.
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[Alex_B]

Fuk that Joe, if this is a true story the guy deserves to lose more than a mirror.

I fukin hate people that want to mess with my/our life.

He got off lightly with losing a mirror.
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[JoeDougieDoug...]

[.....]

Only a c*** hits the car in front.

[WindyMiller]

So, he shouldn't have stopped in the middle of the roundabout, you shouldn't have assumed he wouldn't (he's driving a bloody opel zafira, that should set some alarms off).

You shoudn't have shouted so much abuse, he shouldn't have driven so slow to piss you off. etc. etc.

Try to remain calm. You'll have a better day.
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[hellkat]

God, you guys. Change the feckin record.

Can we leave the bickering out, find a way to extrapolate the actual meat of the story, and just discuss the feckin subject, please?

The bloke has made several posts recently that bring up points that occasionally do merit discussion beyond "STFU, Walter Mitty" type criticism.

Who fuckin cares? Not everybody's life is perfect, and some people are just magnets for idiotic life events, one after the other. Not everyone settles down and fits into the 2.4 children lifestyle. So long as they don't impinge upon your actual life, what the fuck do you care?



FFS
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[hellkat]

/rant





Anyway.

I always worry about things like that.
Like, if the pillion dies and I don't ... how would I feel?

Or if you were the pillion and you lived but your actions caused the accident OR caused the rider directly to die.

I was once on the back when we had to brake hard on the junction at Chelsea Bridge, and I felt my arse lift off the seat. Luckily my bloke at the time kept it upright and kept going, but if it had all ended up going pearshaped, I would have probably dragged him over the handlebars
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[Dan_Davies]

[Pol Anorl]

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He didn't nearly cause an accident, you did.

You saw he was foreign, maybe that should be a clue to give him a bit of extra space as he may be unfamiliar driving on UK roads?

When you can accept that you were to blame then you can start improving your riding. From your posts it sounds like your obs are way below par.

Take things easy before you hurt yourself worse, you hurt someone else.

[MarJay]

[Rogerborg]

My wife was waiting at a roundabout. She started to move when a car approaching in a left turn only lane decided to continue straight through and she had to brake to avoid an accident.

The impatient dozy nobber behind her had been looking at the approaching traffic and decided that she should have booted it and tried to get through. In the event, he slammed her right up the arse - that's my job.

Insurance found 100% in her favour, full recovery.

Take a deep breath, calm down, assume that the vehicle in front is driven by a drunk, codger, Elbonian or a broad on the blob like hellkat. You're not immortal, and even if you were in the right (and you weren't) you can either learn to ride defensively or ride your luck until it runs out.
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[Seb]

You seriously rode like that with someone on the back? Right or wrong, getting involved in anything like that is so utterly wrong when you've got someone else's life in your hands on that pillion seat.
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[Sam_Y_93]

[Blau Zedong]

w00t

I can actually post "poor obs" without a hint of sarcasm for the first time.

Lesson to learn is that being in the right is fuck all compensation for falling off.
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[Alex_B]

BTW, I'm not referring to the going into the arse of the bloke in front (zaffira) oh..er Mrs

I mean the tail gating after. For that the tosser deserves a swift kick in the nuts+
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[ajbsmirnoff]

So, someone has a bit of trouble at a roundabout he's unfamiliar with (driving an opal, its probably an odd experience going the wrong way round a roundabout with cars coming at odd angles), but you know this roundabout well. You abuse him as you pass him (He got a bit of the horn and abuse). He tail-gates you (his bad), and brake tests you (again bad). You knock his wing mirror off (granted its only a Zafira so only 30-70 quid). Good job he didn't decide that knocking you off your bike was the next logical step in this progression.

Blimey, two short tempered idiots meet each other on the road, and inflame each other.

Grow up and calm down. Be the bigger man. People make mistakes, we can either make them worse (abuse), or let them go (cheery wave).

[Ericck]

[Redoko]

Aggressive behavior is obviously a no no but you handled your side of the situation very, very poorly. You had someone else's life in your responsibility. You can't just go do stuff like that, regardless who's to blame.

Self discipline my friend.

Refrain from taking pillions for while, please. The last thing future riders want out there are more statistics telling loved ones that motorbikes are bad.
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[shadylee]

problem with going around knocking peoples wing mirrors off is you forfit all argument and opinion on the event if needed later....who cares if the guy drove dangerously when you have just caused petty damage?

copper told me once,if after a verbal the situation does not improve then either pull over and let them go or take a new direction,easier said than done i understand.