Pour in Power, just before i screw it up

[1cyl]

https://www.automax.cz/stp/pic/stp_power_booster.jpg
Anyone ever used this? I just bought a bottle, but as i was about to empty the contents in, BCF crossed my mind, and i thought i'd make some enquiries before I do.
Is it any good, or would I get more power taking a leak in the tank? If I use it once will the bike need it forever? Will the power drop below what it is at the moment after the bottles empty?
She's quite an old engine, and sometimes i get the feeling the coke might be holding her together and if i flushed it out, the power would just plummet.
Will it push the engine harder than it should be, beacuse when it was made this stuff wern't even around?

Thanks .
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[ProXimaCore]

I'm not sure how effective this is. I'd like to know if it's worth it myself. One thing to make sure though is make sure you've got a full tank of petrol before you do. Also is that quantity designed to be put into a car petrol tank or a bike petrol tank?

I remember my mate put something similar in his car when he was lowish on fuel. (Probably still had more in it than my bike could hold when full.) The car didn't like it at all and started making horrible noises. But was fine next time he tried with a full tank.
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[ilovens125f's]

This is like the fuel conditioner Power Pills.>>>
https://www.power-pill.com/product.html
They are quite good i have used these in
my old GT550, I was supprised to find that
they did actually make quite a cosiderable
difference!!!

Hope this helps

Kev
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[MarJay]

pour about a quarter of the bottle into a full tank. Even that might be too much!

There have been product tests of similar things done in RiDE and MCN, and basically they work OK on really old coked up 2 strokes, but they make negligible difference on 4 strokes. {edit} this includes power pills - they basically said, the older the engine the more likely they are to work! {edit}

Also, modern petrol has a lot of detergent in it anyway so it will just be diluting the fuel with more crap IMO.

it would be nice to hear if it transforms your bike, and its only £15.00 odd if it doesnt work so despite my misgivings I would say that it is worth a go!

Don;t put the whole lot in though - I would say about a tenth of the bottle on a full tank.

I can't do a better calculation though because I don['t know that average fuel capacity of a car tank!!
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[1cyl]

Cheers guy's i've read the bottle and it says:250ml, will treat 50-60 ltrs, so i'm going to measure it out into shot glasses.

I recon i'll test it on the lawnmower and rat bike first, and see what happens, but any other feed back would be great !!
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[MarJay]

It will probably work /really/ well on your ratbike.

Perhaps not so well on the bandit.

How will you tell if the lawnmower makes more power?
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[Mr C]

Increasing the octane rating will only really make a difference if you can advance the ignition a few degrees as well

As I understand it, higher octane fuel burns more slowly so you have to ignite it earlier to get maximum burn from the charge before it is exhausted

The detergents in this stuff may clean up an older engine if used regularly but unless you can advance the ignition, you'll get no performance improvement - if you do it's probably all in your mind
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[Mr C]

I don't think bike ECUs are sophisticated enough to "sense" the fuel and alter igntion mapping though

That's what a PC3R does for you - and you have to map it manually
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[Hex]

Sorry, meant on cars (thats where my experience would lie, not with bikes).

But yeah basically the ignition needs setting to get the best from whatever fuel is put in.
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[divuk83]

A lot of the power/octane boosters are about as good as magic beans, which I can sell you if you want The engine cleaners tend to work better on older bikes as new ones aren't to bad and on two strokes your just making less petrol get into the cylinder, which is not really a good thing.

If you want to bost the octane of your fuel you can buy higher octane stuff that burns cleaner anyway.

https://www.76racing.co.uk/

76 racing sell street legal 106 octane stuff (bout 4 squid a litre) and go as far as to sell methanol and 120 octane race fuels for silly money.

Dave

[Mr C]

To re-iterate


THERE IS NO POINT USING HIGHER THAN STANDARD OCTANE FUEL UNLESS YOU CAN ADVANCE YOUR IGNITION



I thank you
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[MarJay]

The octane rating of fuel controls the amount of compression a mixture of that fuel and air can take before it auto ignites under the stress of compression (IE without a spark).

If you advance your ignition you are allowing the mixture to compress more before the spark ignites it.

Also if you have your cylinder head skimmed and fit a thinner gasket you might need to use higher octane fuel.

Conversely, some low compression classic bikes won't run on modern fuels because the compression is not enough to take the mixture to its ingnition point.

If the mixture auto ignites in high compression engines you get a symptom known as 'knock'.

Basically, don't use super unleaded unless your tuned bike runs badly on premium.

Capisce?
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[Kickstart]

[Hex]

[1cyl]

Thanks a lot guy's , i've decided to use it on my rat bike, i think it needs it more than the bandit.

Overall its not really worth buying then? unless i can advance the timing, but then i'm going to have to get it changed again, if i stop using it aren't I, and if its only phycological power, not worth £5.
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[Hex]

[Mr C]

on the other hand

I will be using octane enhancer plus shell optimax for racing this year
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[1cyl]

Well I decided to run the risk, and put some in the bandit, and wow! if its all phycological then my little bike is pretty quick!!, I put in a 30ml shot for 12 litres, and i swear it makes a difference. I was riding two up and once I fill her to the brim she normally won't get past a 105, but she was pushing a 115 before the road disappeared and I had to slow. This stuff is pretty good.

When I get a dyno run i'll get a with/without printout if they let me, and see how many extra horses there are.

Fitted my jack-up plates too, she turns it well quick now, and stability don't seem to have been altered.
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[Robby]

These devices on cars to change from 95 to 98 octance - any idea if my escort would have one, and where to look?

seems to run a lot nicer on super than premium.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Unlikely it will have one. Ford are not going to fit one as they know how useless they are (and if they could get a noticeable increase in performance for the cost of a a magnet / few bits of tin you can be certain they would have done it by now). If a previous owner has fitted it then good luck finding it.

All the best

Keith
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[1cyl]

Just thought i'd tell everyone that i'm still using this stuff on both my vehicles, its very addictive, if i don't put it in the bike feels somewhat slower, bit like coffee really. But i am trying to cut down, slowly.
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