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reddeviljp
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 28 Nov 2011    Post subject: Where can I buy a 125cc bike from? Reply with quote

There appears to be loads of chinese 125cc bikes all over the internet ( and believe me I've searched!) but a real lack of Yam's, Suzuki's or Honda's. Where is a good place to buy one for a reasonable price? Bastard ad's always seem to want a £1000+.
It seems easier to buy and ride a 500cc bike illegally than a 125cc legally! Why's there such a shortage and is there somewhere with plenty in supply?
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PostPosted: 18:34 - 28 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

125s are always in demand, so good ones go fast and command a premium way in excess of their ability.

They also don't tend to get sold off cheap at the end of summer like more recreational bikes, of both the pointy-plastic and knobbly-tyre varieties.

So, no, sorry, there isn't a secret stash of them, which is one reason why Chinese-branded 125s are selling so well. Lexmoto claim to be the number #6 seller by units now.

tl;dr version - keep cash in hand, keep looking, and get in damn quick when one comes up.

Alternatively, have you considered paying for a training and test course on a school bike, getting your A license, and getting access to a much larger selection of bikes?
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 28 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:

Alternatively, have you considered paying for a training and test course on a school bike, getting your A license, and getting access to a much larger selection of bikes?


That'll work out at about £1000 won't it? That was my original thought but money is very tight at the moment and my idea was to buy a 125cc and practice on it then do the test and then maybe sell it on once passed and get a CB 500 restricted.
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 28 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gumtree, see plenty of Ybrs and CG's come up on a regular basis, Cg's around 300-600 quid ybrs tend to be closer to 800 being newer
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 28 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

125s are always in demand as so main purchasers are learners without that much money (hence a heavy demand for 2nd hand ones, and less prepared to buy new ones), plus the main users are those with little experience so they get wrecked, plus the cheap Chinese bikes have taken a large part of the new market without lasting to become usable 2nd hand bikes.

Plus point is that if you do spend the money on a reputable 125 and don't wreck it you will have a half decent resale value when you trade up.

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PostPosted: 02:04 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Research like fuck at places like here, talk to garages, and other people in the know.
Choose a bike you like (or 2).
And then look at Ebay, gumtree, local ads etc every day.
CBR125's go for mostly around the £1000 mark. I managed to get mine for £850. It's just a case of persistantly looking and then getting in there at the right time.
Good luck on your hunt!
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im selling a CG Cool .. Message me if your interested ;p
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

www.biketrader.co.uk?

Always loads of 125s on there. I was previously looking at 125s on there before I got my CBF from the local dealership. Nice mix of private sellers and traders as well Thumbs UpSmile

Good luck on your hunt bro!
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoeDougieDouglas wrote:
www.biketrader.co.uk?

Always loads of 125s on there.


biketrader is my last resort.

Nationally, there are only 274 under £1000 (read the OP's post), and the first few dozen of those are deliberately mis-listed "deposit price" adverts for new bikes. Then there's a swathe of cat A/B wrecks, non-runners and scooter trash.

In terms of actual ridable motorcycles, well, there's one at 45 miles away from me, then at 118 miles, 119 miles, 130 miles, and up we go.
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PostPosted: 18:07 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
JoeDougieDouglas wrote:
www.biketrader.co.uk?

Always loads of 125s on there.


biketrader is my last resort.

Nationally, there are only 274 under £1000 (read the OP's post), and the first few dozen of those are deliberately mis-listed "deposit price" adverts for new bikes. Then there's a swathe of cat A/B wrecks, non-runners and scooter trash.

In terms of actual ridable motorcycles, well, there's one at 45 miles away from me, then at 118 miles, 119 miles, 130 miles, and up we go.


Good point. Thumbs UpSmile I think as long as you actually read the listing, you can't really go wrong.
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got a Suzuki VL 125 for sale, but am one of those bastards looking for more than £1000 :]
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PostPosted: 21:57 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at your reasoning, and you have the answer.
every one wants a 125 as without a licence thats all they can have.
Demand is high; supply is low; so price reflects supply and demand.

As Keith says; if you want 'cheap' you have to crunch the numbers.

Most cost effective way to a full licence is a three or four year old YBR125, MOT giving confidence its still good and not been thrashed to death while MOT exempt, and having lost bulk of depreciation to second hand value, but still young enough that it promices to be pretty tidy and reliable and useful.

But as most ecconomical way to a good bike and full licence hold prices well, and you are looking in the over a grand bracket, between £100 & £1500 to get one.

BUT get a good one, look after it, you could get nearly if not all your buy price back when you come to sell, making it expensive in the short term, but uber cheap in the longer run.

Its the old double edged sword that to save money, you often have to have money.....

And there is 'cheap' and there is 'ecconomical'.

A Lexmoto, 'Bike in a Box' for £999 brand new may seem 'cheap'; but take a £600 hit on depreciation, to own a sub-standard Learner-Legal, it's not so 'ecconomical'

Advice? Same as to every-one else; up the game; find the money to move into the regions fewer are prepared to; and where people will start thinking that for JUST that bit extra they might as well go brand new and locking themselves into credit agreements...

THERE if you can scrape the cash you will find the bargains, becouse others will baulk at it, but longer term, you'll do better.

OR you join the scrap; get cash; trawl the ads and tool up to act fast and take chances.....

There is no easy option, I'm afraid.
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PostPosted: 23:33 - 29 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers for your help, chaps.Looks like it's cash in hand and get in there quick when I see one.
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 30 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chap in the office is looking. I sent him a link to a Local 125 for Local People that had just hit Gumtree at 9am (no MOT or tax, sticking rear brake, dent in the tank), and by the time he called at lunchtime, there were already two other buyers lined up to view it this afternoon. I very much doubt it'll be there by the weekend.

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PostPosted: 22:05 - 01 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rogerborg wrote:
Chap in the office is looking. I sent him a link to a Local 125 for Local People that had just hit Gumtree at 9am (no MOT or tax, sticking rear brake, dent in the tank), and by the time he called at lunchtime, there were already two other buyers lined up to view it this afternoon. I very much doubt it'll be there by the weekend.

Be quick like a ninja. A ninja made of £20 notes.


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PostPosted: 14:35 - 10 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found one with a dealer on a 54-plate (2004) and he wants £950. Looks in good condition with average mileage but the book price says £650. Is £650 realistic in London at the moment?
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 10 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Found one


Found what exactly?? Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 10 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alex_B wrote:
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Found one


Found what exactly?? Laughing


Thought the thread title would have made the question redundant but :

a 125cc motorcycle Surprised
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 10 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea, in my stupidity I thought you might have just mentioned what sort of 125cc motorcycle it was.

I'm a fukin idiot.

Just go buy it then. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 11 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

reddeviljp wrote:


Thought the thread title would have made the question redundant but :

a 125cc motorcycle Surprised


125cc motorcycle....thats a fairly vague description even to a novice like me.
is it from one of the big 4 jap brands or one of the several dozen chink brands? whats the mileage?
950 might be a good price for some bikes on a 04 plates, but not all of them!
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PostPosted: 00:36 - 11 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whoops - Honda CG125 with 20 000 on the clock.
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 11 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

does it have service history, have you seen it yet and is it sparkling or rough around the edges? does it have a current mot and how long for?
after looking on ebay, i think you could expect to pay 950 for a really well looked after and tidy one, but I'd be looking for things to haggle on price wise, he may be expeceting to be brought down a little?

if you have a search on the forum I'm sure there are some 'what to look for when buying' guides, have a google and there are whole lists of what to look for when checking it over, if you dont know much then take a friend or read up as much as you can.

i thought bike prices where a bit low at the moment, buyers market due to winter or is that not the case?

dont rush in, if its not the bike for you another will come along soon, good luck anyhow Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 11 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a ybr125 for a grand. 57 plate 9k miles 1 yr mot n tax. Pm me if ur interested Smile
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PostPosted: 05:46 - 11 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

reddeviljp wrote:
Whoops - Honda CG125 with 20 000 on the clock.
Trouble with CG's is that people WILL pay money for them, becouse of the inflated reputation "You cant go wrong with a CG125; bullet proof them is; nie on indestruictable; go for ever, they will, ANd you can almost bank on flogging it for what it coist ya!"

Trouble is too many become the victim of thier own reputation, and abused by inexperienced newbies, who think that becouse they are 'indestructable' they can thrash the crap out of them with impunity, and 'low-maintenence' meand 'no-maintenence'... THEN when they have sorely abused them apply the 'sell for wot it cost' idea to mean everything it has cost them EVER, including the improvised repairs using over priced gunk from Halfords and old coke cans....

And flogging on to another unwitting newbie... they often GET what they are asking!

04 model, from a dealer..... Hmmm, thats the plastic version, a late one. Very easy to valet and make shiney and look good.... while a dealer will also tend to know exactly how to hide mechanical deficiences from an unwitting and over eager newbie.... ANd price nearly double book value having paid half book on it to whoever PX'd it on whatever big-bike they traded up to.

Not making it sound promicing am I?

Personally I dont think that the ingredients make for anything remotely like a bargain... but could be wrong. CG's DO sell easily and for good money on that reputation, sor there is still merit in them, but you DO have to beware the ones that are victims of that reputation, and the pool of decent CG's is shrinking rapidly as they have been out of production five six years now, and youngest are descending into the forth fifth ownership mire of an old bike.

Personally I'd go check out this chaps YBR, its half the age, and they are the 'new' 125 learner benchmark, and no where near as over-priced, and TEND as a whole to be in a better state... though I cant vouch for whether mickfulton's is any good or if he's trying to sell you a pup!

CG at the dealers; I would want to go over with a fine tooth comb. More realistically its worth around £750, but dealer IS likely to get what he's asking and you'r unlikely to get anywhere haggling on the price, though you may get something more useful if you can get more than a one month warranty, and possibly some 'kit' or at least discounted kit chucked into the deal... may not be a complete no-hoper, but its a dealer, you ENT going to snag a bargain, and certainly not on a genunie CG125 he could flog three times over.

Dealers do occassionaly chuck up decent buys, on stuff that they dont want to stick in teh show-room, or wont easily shift on e-bay; but not very often.
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PostPosted: 08:24 - 11 Dec 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers cheerfulgrin and Mike - very helpful posts.
Mick, I've pm'ed you.
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