How cheap is a bikers life?

[Conon]

1500 quid apparently, yet you can go to jail for speeding on a motorbike.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-16097590

[Rogerborg]

At least she acted decisively afterwards. Not many people would have the presence of mind to invent a story that he was indicating, even though nobody else saw it and the indicator must have cancelled itself after the crash.

Good job on the PTSD ploy as well, she's doubtless crowing about how well it worked on Facebook right now.
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[Conon]

I thought this was the most telling quote from that article "She gets very upset talking about it and said ‘if only I had waited a moment longer’."

How many bikers lives would be saved if drivers only waited a moment longer?

[colin1]

We have a rather odd moral legal stand point.

It goes that if it can be proved you broke a regulation which is designed to improve safety, ie 1mph over the speed limit, there is no doubt that an offence occurred so the offender is responsible and evil even if no bad things happen as a result.

However if someone causes a very bad thing such as a death, but proving the degree of blame is more tricky, the law will often just let them off with a slap on the wrist.

It's rather odd.

I think in this case, there may have been a mindset that bikers deliberately put themselves in harms way by having no safety cage around them, and that they are known to ride fast and irresponsibly, therefore the woman making an innocent mistake is the innocent party.
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[cb1rocket]

its sick that you can get away with 3 years for murder basically! Oh yeah so its going to be the norm that if you hate someone that much and don't mind spending 3 years in jail, then just run them over?!

What has the UK justice system come to?

Driving is like a weapon, miss use it and it becomes offensive.

[Conon]

This one only got a 3 year ban. No jail time at all. The bikers family would have been delighted if she had got 3 years.

[Redoko]

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[Walloper]

In the words of a CUNT.

Mr Alonzi added: "It’s my submission that some responsibility does lie with the deceased."

Idiot.
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[fatpies]

Sadly these things happen in cars too. My bro had somebody come out of a junction it wrote off his car.

The biatch claimed he had his indicator on. And she said she thought he was turning in.

It dragged on for about 2 years. And ended in a 50-50.

Suddenly buying a HD go pro for my lid seems to be a pretty good idea these days.
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[lihp]

What is terrible is this comment!

A custodial sentence would have ramifications for her young daughter

What about ramifications for the bikers family?

[dodgydog]

Reminds me of a biker fatality we had close to us some years ago.
The woman driver pulled across the path of the biker, (an advanced riding instructor) he died at the scene.
The judge at the inquest praised the actions of the woman driver, (turned out she was a nurse).
"For doing all she could to assist the motorcyclist while waiting for an ambulance".


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[Rogerborg]

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[Rogerborg]

My point being that the issue is already covered in the article that I linked to, so mentioning it as a hypothetical is redundant. Plod did check, and said that it wasn't on at the time of the crash.

Cancelling it might have been the last thing that he did, but I'm betting not.
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[Amreet]

Damn this makes me angry:

She told police after the accident: "I saw he had his indicator on But he was riding a motorcycle. I gave another look."

I know it's one of countless similar cases but STILL, she makes up this blatantly deliberate and false story, the whole 'ah it was a motorbike, and i know they're dangerous so i checked twice!' bullshit really gets me riled. It bloody well worked as well by the looks of it.

[gorillaonabik...]

What a piece of sh!t. Personally, I think the only justice is vigilante justice. If anyone did this to a mate of mine and got away with it, I would f@cking well execute the SoB.

What a c@nt.

When I was hit head on by a car, a police car actually drove by me while I was on the floor, picking myself up. F@cking wanker.

The law is a p!ece of sh!t. I would always take the law into my own hands. It's fairer that way.
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[keggyhander]

This really boils my piss. There are not many genuine accidents. The only ones I class as accidents are those caused by dodgy surfaces and shit on the roads.

Anything else is an incident, and some fucker's fault.

It doesn't make sense that being caught doing nothing wrong other than being 1 microgram over the drink drive limit can ruin your life, yet a dozy doris, driving like a typical split-arse can get away with killing somebody.

I'm not advocating drink-driving, just showing the difference (as measured in kittens).

I was driving to work this morning and a car pulled up to a T-junction up ahead and to my left. This car stopped, I carried on as you do. She was looking left. I expected her to then look right (as you do).

But no. Without ever looking right she pulled out to turn right. I nearly shit a brick. I don't know how I stopped the car. My lingering memory of the scene was that even with a black car nearly in her lap she still never bloody looked in my direction as she turned on to the road.

I was shaking as I pulled into work a couple of hundred yards further on. I couldn't get the thought "God help me if I'd been on the bike" out of my head. And If I'd not been able to stop and ploughed straight into her door then I would have had to live with that even though she was at fault.

That is why I advocate greater penalties for those who cause traffic incidents.

[Amreet]

[JP7]

Some of the sentences given out for these things really are laughable. When you consider that death by careless carries a maximum of five years, it is ridiculous that people aren't routinely jailed for these offences. The prospect of a guaranteed jail term might encourage people to look harder before pulling out.

I would say that I hope she feels really guilty and has to live with the guilt, but it sounds like she has rationalised her story to the point where she believes it.

There is a new offence coming out of causing serious injury by dangerous driving. We can only hope that it will serve to increase the tariff for people who kill others behind the wheel. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15208065

(Yes, unlikely I know).