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Going by the Haynes book... a code of 33 (3 long flashes, 3 short flashes) is the ignition coil and the engine will not run. Possible causes are a fault in the wiring (corrosion, break in cable etc), faulty coil, faulty ignition cut off circuit or faulty ECU. Start by checking and cleaning up the wiring and connectors. |
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Pulsing neutral is a simple one, low battery.
Headlights probbably pulse with it, occasional flashing of engine management and piss poor idle are also symptoms. Also will run fine and randomly cut out at lights and stuff.
Ybr's do some fucking wacky things when the battery gets low. If it keeps it up then either new battery or new reg/rec (silver box with heatsink fins on it, directly under petrol tank on the LHS of bike. Approximately 5cm x 5cm. Four wires i belive on a multi plug facing the back of the bike.) Need to swap mine out...paddy, joolz and sid will vouch for this
Take it out for an hour and redline every single gearchange. Rag the absolute fuck out of it. If that doesnt remedy it then stuff needs swapping out! ____________________ Please be aware that the above post may be full of complete nonsense.
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| _Iain_ wrote: | Pulsing neutral is a simple one, low battery.
Headlights probbably pulse with it, occasional flashing of engine management and piss poor idle are also symptoms. Also will run fine and randomly cut out at lights and stuff.
Ybr's do some fucking wacky things when the battery gets low. If it keeps it up then either new battery or new reg/rec (silver box with heatsink fins on it, directly under petrol tank on the LHS of bike. Approximately 5cm x 5cm. Four wires i belive on a multi plug facing the back of the bike.) Need to swap mine out...paddy, joolz and sid will vouch for this
Take it out for an hour and redline every single gearchange. Rag the absolute fuck out of it. If that doesnt remedy it then stuff needs swapping out! |
You're a leg-end mate
I've had it on charge for the last 2 hours, at 12v atm, gonna see how it feels in the morning, see if it magically loses all charge or something..
Rectifier eh, I think I eyed that earlier, yeah, hokay.
I think the battery i sknackered from being on it's side a fair few times  ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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| ThoughtControl wrote: | | Alpha-9 wrote: | I think the battery i sknackered from being on it's side a fair few times  |
If it's a gel cell it should have coped fine. Get yourself a cheap multimeter if you're fiddling with electrics. One with a continuity buzzer is great for dealing with bad connections in shitty wiring. It'll pay for itself quick enough and save on frustration and time. |
I'm using a multimeter at the moment.
When I started the power from the battery terminals was 6v (it's a 12v battery) and same through the ignition wires, 6.66v
I charged it and it went to 13v, left it over night it's between 11 and 12v this morning, but now wont start at all, can try kicking it and the electric starter makes the chuggachugga sound, but it's not starting, and the neutral light is pulsing
Yet the lights are brightish and I think the injector made its whirry bootup noise
Can't get it to start by kick anyway
Was an acid type battery, the default one, it's opaque balck so I cant look through it to see if the cells look cloudy at all
Not sure if it's the rectifier, the battery, the ECU or something else
Managed to rag it up and down the road after sorting my cam chain timings out, that seems to have fixed the gears sticking, and I changed the oil which was blaaaaaaaaaaack and nasty ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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| neil. wrote: | New battery time by the sounds of it. What's the voltage on the battery when the engine is running and you open the throttle to around 5'000rpm? Should see 13.something which means the alternator and reg/rec is working. A battery should hold something like 12.7V when fully charged and not drop much below. Certainly not to 11V.
The battery in the 2007+ YBR is a gel lead acid type, sealed and maintenance free, so you don't need to top it up with distilled water, check its breather hose or measure specific gravity of the electrolyte. I still have the original battery (which did need all that maintenance) from my 2005 YBR which still holds a good charge after 7 years! |
When I use the electric start the voltage drops to 4 lol.
When I started the bike up with the charger attached to the battery it idled higher, when you switch the charger off you can actively hear it struggling to tick over, then it stalls usually.
I can't get it to tick over without the charger I don't think.. i'm at work now (bus ) so will try and diagnose it some more when i'm home later. From what I remember when I could get it idling, giving it some throttle did indeed bring the volts up to 13v
I was thinking of getting one of these https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/ybr_125_fuel_injection/07-09/picture/battery_motobatt_sealed_high_torque/
Hoping it's not the alternator...any other diagnostics I can do?
Can anyone find the service manual for 2009 YBR? Can't find it for the life of me, only the carb model
Gonna buy the haynes.
Edit: Haynes manual ordered, motobatt ordered, let's hope that helps, if not, i'll send the bugger back. My spreadshirt.com paid out so got £70 in my paypal for free
For my reference when i'm home https://www.ymenvom.nl/new/manuals/U3D9E2.PDF ____________________ Fzr-600 1999 |
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