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Mattastic
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Riding in the wet Reply with quote

I recently passed my CBT on Wednesday and have so far managed to clock up 120 miles! I'm slightly worried that the weather is going to catch me out with me being so inexperienced. Here in Bradford it seems to be pretty wet all the time and cold!

Have you got any tips for poor weather riding? At the moment I make sure that the distance I'd usually break at is doubled, I make sure that none of my steering is exagerated ie avoiding potholes etc early rather than at the last minute. Any more?
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just generally take it easy. Watch for negative camber bends and roundabouts. In other words, roads that have a slope to the left, they can make it SO much easier to skid off the bike.

A friend of mine fell off his bike doing about 10mph around a mini roundabout with negative camber, it was wet and he thought, 'right, I'll slow right down now, I'll take my time' but it didn't matter, the back end still slipped out and he fell off hehe. It didn't hurt though, as he was going slow, but you must always be careful in the wet.

Another thing, watch the white lines and drain covers. They are a bloody nightmare, in the dry they are bad enough. As you said though, don't swerve too much to avoid them. If you can't avoid them just hold the throttle steady and go straight over them (not while turning though), don't freak out as that will surely make you fall off! Laughing

One more thing, save the fun riding for when it's dry. Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just go easy on the bends, and the breaking, you should be fine.

Oh, and avoid man hole covers on corners in bad weather... Bad Weather + Man hole cover = poor looking bike + Injured rider (sometimes)

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PostPosted: 01:18 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.survivalskills.clara.net/riding_skills_25.htm (i post that link so often its silly) read though this, there is loads but its 100% reading the lot.

you've pretty much got it, try not to do anything too sharply, keep everything smooth and leave more space to stop,
as a rule anyway (and more importantly in the wet) when coming to a corner try to be at the correct speed when you enter the corner before leaning, braking and leaning will make you loose traction and is not what you want just keep the throttle steady as you go through it and when you see the exit gently increase the power as you straighten up.

Also avoid drain covers and painted lines, also tar joins in the road.. a wet ride can be as much fun as a dry one, i don't really pay much attention (apart from snow) what its doing.

Well done with the cbt, and for going out in the nastyer weather, just try and expect the worst from other road users and you should be ready for them to do even the stupidest things..

Welcome to the board if you have just joined too Smile what have you been rideing?

EDIT: oops, just saw your other thred..


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Mattastic
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

zero wrote:
what have you been rideing?


Until Monday evening I'd only been a pillion on my father in law's VFR750 and I only did that once and fell in love, with the bike not him!

I bought a GS125 with 15k on the clock for £400 to get too and from work and to ge some experience. The instructor reckons I'm a full day's training away from my 33hp test, I must have picked it up quickly. I feel at home on the bike, I've not taken any risks and just enjoyed myself on the CBT and during my ride today!
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZaphodBeeble wrote:

One more thing, save the fun riding for when it's dry. Thumbs Up Very Happy


You can ride for fun in the rain Thumbs Up My favourite rideout was in terrential rain!
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PostPosted: 01:50 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

YamsR6 wrote:

You can ride for fun in the rain Thumbs Up My favourite rideout was in terrential rain!


Yeah I know it's still fun, but what I mean is you should save the REALLY fun riding for when it's dry. Thumbs Up Razz
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PostPosted: 09:04 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of the biggest problems that riders face when riding in the wet is that they tend to tense up thereby magnifying the input into the control of the machine rather than just relaxing the same as they would if riding in the dry.

Modern tyres actually grip (in the majority of cases) very well in the wet, but by tensing up all the movements become somewhat mechanical and this can compromise your grip.
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PostPosted: 09:29 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
One of the biggest problems that riders face when riding in the wet is that they tend to tense up thereby magnifying the input into the control of the machine rather than just relaxing the same as they would if riding in the dry.

Modern tyres actually grip (in the majority of cases) very well in the wet, but by tensing up all the movements become somewhat mechanical and this can compromise your grip.


I'm always very aware that my main problem when riding in the wet is that I am so tense. I just don't believe that the tyres are going to hold, even when going round easy suburban corners.

What I need to do is a trackday in the wet. Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 10:12 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

When going round corners in the wet, leave the brakes alone, use the bikes engine braking to slow down if needed, ie back off with the throttle and leave the clutch alone.

If you use the brakes on a wet bend / corner the bike will want to do one of two things, it will want to sit upright or just slid out from under you.

Just treat the road the same as you would when it's dry, but watch your speed at the same time.
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PostPosted: 10:29 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice would be.. (for all it's worth! haha)

Ride exactly the same as you would if it's dry but with a couple of subtle differences. i.e. Ride as if it was a test of smoothness. Very Happy No harsh braking, no harsh accelerating, super smooth throttle action etc etc.

As T.C. says, modern tyres have more wet grip than you'd imagine.

One last tip would be to just keep a keen eye on braking distances and slippery surfaces.

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PostPosted: 11:58 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just say well done for not being put off by bad weather, riding all weather will make you a better rider a lot quicker to many 'fair'weather rider's get caught out in a downpour and come a croper oh and keep an eye on idiot car drivers with steamed up windows pulling out on you and across you
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

When riding in the wet I find you really have to keep on the ball a lot more, do everything a lot slower and don't lean half as far as you do normally, the other thing is when the rain stops and the sun comes out, roads that appear to have dried off too the eye, sometimes have not, I always skim my foot a few feet just to check before i lay into the corner.
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PostPosted: 18:03 - 26 Mar 2004    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first ever day on the road on a bike it was rainy and wet. In the wet I just ride normally except for taking corners easier. I don't think I have ever slipped in the wet though.
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