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 Posted: 12:26 - 09 Nov 2011 Post subject: Biking related: Very Worthy Charity Cause |
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The Unbearable Challenge
A teddy bear's greatest adventure.
Travelling by scooter over 2241 miles...
Visiting 33 BMW dealerships in just 5 days!
Two riders are raising money in aid of Cancer Research UK
Please Donate by clicking on this link:
https://www.justgiving.com/theunbearablechallenge
We really appreciate your support, any donation would be fantastic
But what on earth are we doing? Please Read on here:
https://www.theunbearablechallenge.co.uk/default.html
Thanks for Reading
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Hi and welcome to the forum.
I'm sure you came here to join the community, and not just to try and get us to part with some of our hard earned. After all, it's not like your first post on the forum was one asking us for money......oh, wait, it was.
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Don Eladio is dead. His capos are dead. You have no one left to fight for. Fill your pockets and leave in peace. Or fight me and die!
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What the people bleeding these charities like Sally Army dry like Alex Hughes don't seem to realise, (or care about), is that their shops used to sell cheap things to local people that had little money. So, not only were they rasing money for charity but they also helped out local communities. Now, they chuck anything they can't make a decent profit on and overcharge for the rest
21st century motto - "maximise profits - minimise services" while paying staff as little as legaly possible.
Twats - the lot of 'em  ____________________ Space Is Deep |
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| nop wrote: | All that stuff is worth a couple of grand at the most, he is still taking a low salary for a CEO position. |
True, but we're talking about Cancer Research here. The scooterists are attempting to cover 1/70th of its CEO's annual swill budget. Add in the PR, lobbyists, HR and other assorted admin snouts, and it all seems a bit futile.
Quite seriously, if you want to help cure cancer you'd be better off shoving some tenners in an envelope marked "FOR SCIENCE" and leaving it lying around the local university research lab. ____________________ Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
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My neighbour collects clothes, cooking utensils, basically any old crap we normally dump in a land fill.
A couple of times a year she crates it all up, takes it on a plane to Jamaica, taxis it to her 'wrong side of the tracks' village and hands the stuff directly to the poor, ie. people in rags living in tin shacks.
She pays for it all herself.
That's proper charity work.  ____________________ They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa, hey-hey,
the men in white coats are coming to take me away.
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What really gets me is these Charity workers that go up and down the high street asking people for money... more than once i've had one of them follow me up the high street, trying to talk to me about "saving the whales" or whatever, but out of all the money the recieve... how much do you think goes to charity? Those workers aren't doing it for free i'd bet!
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Hello Everyone,
We tracked this site down through our site manager, I happen to be one of the men taking part in the challenge.
Thanks first of all for visiting our website.
A little put off by some of the comments raised by some ( I know it's an open forum).
Nop said
I couldn't agree more. This stunt is just a self funding publicity exercise, I am just unsure of the stooges came up with the idea themselves. They are visiting BMW garages...lolwut, please at least a little subtlety guys. Am I to assume you will be selling the peds at the end to further fund the fight against man made disease? No? Free peds all round, woohoo.
I'd just like to answer his points.
The idea come about due to the fact that recently ( in the last 3 yrs) 3 people we know died and 6 more people are currently struggling with cancer. One of these people i used to work with and took part in "the pink way round" This trip was inspired by hers.
The stunt isn't self fundinging publicity, infact BMW have told us not to visit the BMW owned dealership of Park Lane because this would devalue the brand.
And the reason for visiting the dealer network is we have people we know will sponser us in it. And who knew some of the people we know effected by cancer.
As for how its been funded i have sold my bike to raise the money for the trip. So yes i will be selling the scooters at the end of it to be able to by a new bike.
As for the choicein bike 250s were choosen due to them being allowed on the motorway.
And yes it all started as an idea for a jolly we in july thought it would be great to take 125s around the english coast for a week.
Peds are also 50cc.
So thanks for your time, and if you think its going to be so easy put your money wear your mouth is why not join us for the trip, its open invite.
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Hi other-person.
First off; can you confirm you understand the amount of money spent by Cancer Research UK on bureaucracy (executive salaries included) and some of their questionable practices, such as discussed above?
Are you aware that the most effective way to help stop people suffering from cancer is to encourage people as a whole to be fitter?
Sure, it not a panacea that will work everywhere, but it would be the most effective method as far as I know.
Why not visit cancer hospitals and research centres and invite your BMW friends along instead?
You are allowed on a motorway on a c90. Hell, get a slightly bigger bore on a c50 and you're sorted.
Using motorways and 250cc scooters takes away any sort of 'challenge' really. People do these sorts of distances on comfortable bikes every day - I suggest you have a search for 'marmalade' in this forum and his LeTJoG trip. (Edit, here found it for you - https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=225374 ) - ok, it's on a bit bigger bike, but not going to make a massive difference sitting on trunk roads. And yes, they did the entire length of mainland UK in one day. I didn't see any begging requests, but that seems to actually be a reasonable achievement.
My mouth is saying this is a silly idea that will be easy and a bit boring, why would I want to put my money here?
Here's me taking a scooter and doing something different and challenging with it (proper enduro course):
https://gees.zenfolio.com/img/s10/v16/p412132103-3.jpg
This was a bit of a challenge, but no way I was going to expect people to contribute to a 'charity' that spends millions (at a guess) on executive pay just because I had a bit of fun. |
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This is my big problem with big charities, you are never quite sure where the money is going and how it is being spent.
To go slightly off topic, but something slightly fitting, I have just found out that someone I know, has been going through cancer treatment and has had an operation, now this person took me through my bike test, really is one of the nicest people you will ever meet, and an all round good guy very active within the charity scene, but for local small charities etc, was an active blood bike (till cancer obviously) and just because of the way he is, I support and have filled out a Direct Debit mandate out for the local blood bikes who rely solely on donations to keep going.
This leads me to my next point I suppose, the person I am talking about is now out of work, and being self employed is a big hit for him and his family, and I can go out and donate to the cancer charities, but how do I know he is going to get the help and support and use from that charity, which leaves me with only one option and that is to donate directly to the person in question, that way I know he will be getting the full benefit from the donation.
I support charities (certain ones) but imho donating to big charities achieves nothing in the short term and with poor results in the long term, and the only way you can actually make a difference is by using local small charities or helping the people who have helped others and need help now and dealing with them directly.
The only way we can really make a difference is by helping the people around us, not the big company charities, don't get me wrong I believe we should still support them for their work into what ever their aspect of charity is, but we have lost the community help your neighbour attitude, charity they say starts at home, for me charity starts in the local area, I would much prefer that any money I donate is used locally for the people who really need it.
The best charity you can give is just being there for someone, I could waffle on about another cancer story on going now, but I have also helped someone else out, his old man was building my new office and he was helping out, a week or so in his old man came down with really aggressive cancer in his lower intestines, leaving his dad out of action and him jobless, since then I have taken him on, and without blowing my own trumpet, I know the appreciation is there when he just needs that bit of support, yes the job helps him out financially but the work environment provided keeps his mind off things, and letting him vent.
Sorry I waffled on, but seemed a fitting time to post this. ____________________ Stinkwheel: You have no right to free speech
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