Delivery vehicle definition

[Marmalade]

Can anyone help with this?

It seems that various traffic wardens / enforcement officers have no idea if or what is the definition of a delivery vehicle.

Some are of the opinion only a van can be loading, some are ok with bikes and vans but not people carriers and cars etc.

Is there a legal definition of what is a delivery vehicle and can legally be stopped for the duration of a delivery?
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[Pete.]

I was told years ago by a traffic warden that they would only consider a car a delivery vehicle if the rear seats were folded down.
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[swanny]

in Bolton, your back doors have to be open to be classed as loading..


stupid rule !
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[Shaft]

Surely vehicle type is irrelevant, if you can prove you're loading/unloading, that's all that's required?

Whether or not you've taken a reasonable time to load/unload is a different matter but, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter if I'm delivering on my bike, my company van (unwritten) or my Merc SL, I'm still delivering.
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[Rogerborg]

I don't believe that there's any legislation that refers to a "delivery vehicle". What you're looking for is "goods vehicle". See RTA 1998 Section 192 (1): “goods” includes goods or burden of any description, “goods vehicle” means a motor vehicle constructed or adapted for use for the carriage of goods, or a trailer so constructed or adapted. The same definition is in RTRA 1984 138 (3)

However, what matters is the actual wording in the Traffic Regulation Order (if any) which applies to that piece of land.

That may be covered in RTRA 1984 Section 61 Loading areas, which only allows for "goods vehicles" to unload, but note that a "loading area" can only cover land which is "not part of a highway".

However, a TRO can in general "[prohibit] or [restrict] the waiting of vehicles or the loading and unloading of vehicles", even if not in a designated "loading area".

In Greater London, there's explicitly more scope for imposing regulations including...

[Marmalade]

[Rogerborg]

Well, the onus is on them to show that there's a TRO in place.

But sorry, I don't think there's anything that unambiguously clears it up in your favour. It'll be in the case "law", which sadly means the kangaroo klowns at PATAS or TPT.

You could try winning some cases there, or pre-emptively ask them for a decision about your bike.
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[Fisty]

[Kwaks]

This was discussed on pepipo, have a read through\:

https://forums.pepipoo.com/lofiversion/index.php/t62058.html
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[sickpup]

Bottom line is fit a top box, use it to carry goods, claim it is a adapted and the parking appeals will back you up.

[Ichy]

It's a very long time since I worked as a courier but having a top box with a company sticker on it seemed to be enough for the traffic enforcement officers of Birmingham.
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[Thelostone]

Admittedly I may be a little out of date here but during my time as a London despatch rider (mid '80's to late '90s) I never paid a single parking ticket. We would let them write out the ticket and they would always tick the illegal parking box and not the illegal loading/unloading box, then appeal against the ticket on the grounds of being a commercial vehicle loading or unloading (didn't matter if there was loading/unloading restrictions as the ticket was for parking). This always worked.

N.B. The bike had document panniers (designed for work not touring), different main jets (larger?) to allowing cooler running in heavy traffic, crash bars 'round the clocks. Thus "...adapted for use for the carriage of goods...".
In addition the Royal Parks Police would stop us if we tried to use the roads in Hyde park or the inner circle of Regents park on the basis that we were commercial vehicles, and of course the insurance companies also thought the same way. Lastly the tax man allowed us to claim our bikes as tax deductible. Given all that how could the parking enforcement lot argue differently?

[sickpup]

[Rogerborg]

[Marmalade]

3 out of 4 of my bikes are sign written and have 'courier' across the front and on the number plates (so it shows in the traffic wardens photo of proof of offence)

I don't get a lot of trouble but even the odd one is a balls ache and if i do a delivery using the car it's usually a PITA with the wardens
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