So, I went straight over a curb...

[TH427]

Last night coming home for football I took a short cut to avoid some traffic. It involves going through a 20 zone outside a school with speed humps etc.

The first lot of speed humps are just that, 2 humps in the road.
Like many, I swerve round the left or right of them, (Left if a car is coming the other way)

SO, I'm going along and everything is fine. ahead of me I see 2 speed bumps, and an oncoming car with it's headlights on (which reduces what I can see) I swerve gently to the left (I am only doing 20mph) to go round the hump. Metres before it I see the ground is not flat, from this distance I assumed it could only be more speed hump and it was wider than the others, so I go over it.

I hit it and it makes an awful crash and sends me into a wobble, which rightens. Still going, I realise what has happened...

Some of the speed humps have further "traffic controlling measures" where the curb sticks out into the road to narrow it. These usually have high viz bollards on them. Obviously someone has nicked the bollard or it's been crashed into and taken away, because it's not there, and on the other side of the road the bollard is still there but the high viz stripes have been removed.

I pulled over shaken up thinking I've done something awful to the bike, however, looking at it I cant see anything wrong, so I ride it home. Further inspection revealed that I have a neglible dent in the front rim (could well have been there since I've had the bike and never noticed it) but I can't see anything else wrong with it.

I'll upload pictures of the curb at somepoint today.

Thinking of taking my bike in to a workshop for a checkover although everything seems okay, and also contacting the council.

Any advise?
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Sub frame looks like it could be twisted.
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[Pol Anorl]

Been there done that but mine was on an unfamiliar road near where paddy lives, stupid road should have been straight instead of a pointless curv in a badly lit place lol
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[P.addy]

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[Pol Anorl]

[P.addy]

[Walloper]

Riding too fast for conditions. Fail.

Using CURB instead of KERB Fail. Fail. Fail.
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[TH427]

[Walloper]

If you ran over the kerb you never seen it.

Either you were not looking or going to fast to notice.

Policeman would have had your arse for it.
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[Pol Anorl]

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[TH427]

"If you ran over the kerb you never seen it"

Please don't criticise a spelling mistake if you are going to make grammar mistakes. And it's quite obvious I didn't see it if I went over it?

I didn't see it because of poor lighting, a car with headlights on coming at me, no high viz bollards and the edge of the curb had the usual road crime darkening it.

You may be interested to know that my dad is a police sergeant who is also a bike rider. He visited the spot with me after to have a look and he failed to spot it until I pointed it out to him, and said it wasn't my fault.

I fail to see why you are trying to pin blame on me for something that wasn't my fault and all I came here to do was ask for some advice on what to do if the bike was damaged etc.
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[P.addy]

[Walloper]

I never BLAMED you or pinned anything on you.

From the evidence you provided I deduced you were going to fast for road conditions.
Regardless of whatever caused you to NOT see the difference in the road's surface you should have slowed down to a more controllable speed.
Other lights dazzling you you need to slow down.

It may well be that the road is poorly marked/dark but you have lights on your bike and the advice is to only ride as fast as you can see clearly ahead.

You are lucky you weren't injured.

Edit:

If the front wheel rim is damaged there is a very significant chance that the front tyre is knackered too. 'Snake Bite'.
You may be safer to replace the tyre.

Side wall damage may not be evident from the outside but the structure of the tyre could be very seriously be compromised.
The front is most important for braking and steering.
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[TH427]

I did read the road, but I can't read something I can't see. I'm not one to avoid blame. I came off my 125 at about 10mph in the rain because I turned to hard, and didn't look at the ground to see that slippery black crap you get at the bottom of puddles sometimes.

Okay walloper, blame is an unfair word. Place me at fault be a better description? I know people will have different opinions but I don't believe I was a fault.
I wasn't dazzled, just the difference in lighting made it invisible. I was doing what I thought was a safe speed, and still do. If it was an unsafe speed I would have probably done more damage.

The fact is, is if the bollard was there I would have noticed it and acted accordingly. Definately learn from this though.

EDIT: Tyres are due for replacement soon anyways
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[pinkyfloyd]

https://iamcool-ontheinternet.com/gallery/jpg/wambulance.jpg

Looks like I arrived in time to prevent this:

https://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/flounce_oneniner.jpg?w=720

On and what G said.
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[TH427]

Just saying it because you said about what a policeman would have said. And he does know quite a bit, parents owned a garage, he's rebuilt a few engines a he did a stint in traffic.

Don't think i'm sounding like a child but okay. Wasn't looking for criticism of my riding because I cannot find any fault in what I did that day. I'm not asking for cushions dotted everywhere and reflective strips everywhere, just annoyed that this high viz bollard was missing, they are meant to be there for a reason.
Reckon some scrote nicked it to bash his mate with, seen it happen before.

But everyone is entitled to there opinions, I'm just trying to get the story across.

Anyway, I am more looking towards what to do if it is damaged when I get it properly checked. It seems fine but want piece of mind. I heard that you can claim for repairs if damage was done by a pothole, so if it IS damaged, could I go through a similar process? (assuming it is damaged which I don't think it is)
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[Walloper]

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[Alex_B]

If you've dented the rim, it's damaged.

I agree, if the Bollard is missing and *was* meant to be there then you might have a case and it's worth chasing up.

Karma for not falling off mate.
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[TH427]

Thanks,

Gave it a spin last. It seems fine it's just there is this very negilible dent in the rim of the wheel (probably 0.5-1mm) this could have been there for a while, it's a 23 year old bike. But I'm just paranoid about it. Impact felt like it should have broken something. I could have just been extremely lucky to not come off and suffer no real damage to the bike.

The kerb is not part of the pavement. Imagine a wedge shape piece of cheese on it's side on the road bewteen the pavement and the hump with hole in the top for the bollard (I'll upload photos later to clear that up). Sorry if I made it seem as if it came out from the pavement. That would have been more obvious because I kept an eye on the pavement's kerb as a reference point because of the headlights.
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