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Jefr0
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Backup commuter bike? Reply with quote

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I've been riding into London since May now, 5 days a week, don't mind what weather.

I currently ride a CBR 600 F ('91) into work. My only back up at the moment is my Ducati 916 lol - which is not an option, not worth the risk.

I'm after a bike, ideally sub £7-800 which I can have as a back up if the CBR can't be used for whatever reason, like this morning when the alarm went off and I couldnt start it....I thought I disabled the alarm 3 years ago, never had problems till this morning :\

I'm after something, that hasn't got wide bars or wider than the CBR. If it drops (I.e. in snow) I can pick it up on my own, if it drops, doesn't do too much damage, mainly reliability!

I'm thinking of a Honda XR125, my bro used to have one and I used that, great bike, reliable and with another exhaust on there I can be heard more commuting, it's just finding one for a good price.

Any suggestions? I thought of the CG125, but not sure I'd like it (I know similar or same engine as the XR)
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ER5
XJ Diversion
ZZR600

Why is not using a 916 an option? I know someone who used a 748 every day for a year or so, only problem being you rack up to servicing miles quickly, I would have no problem riding my Duke everyday if I had to and was insured for it.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Pits said, the XJ Diversion is a good bike. I know someone with one and they love it. Nice smooth ride, fairly good MPG, an all-around good commuter. Smile If you can find one for £800, then go for it! Smile
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm looking for one too and will probably buy a cheap scooter. Although, knowing me, I'll find it too tempting to use (because it sips fuel) and it will become my main commuter. I'd love an XT125 but prefer the simplicity of a scooter, hope on and go (and look like a ponce at the same time but mneh)
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Pits.

Many reasons for not using the 916:

Had 2 non fault accidents within a month, would hate it to be the Duc.
Riding position not comfortable for start stop.
The clutch will kill my hand.
Will overheat and overheat me.
Can't see nothing in mirrors.
Not wise to ride in wet/snow.
Would hate to drop it.
Hard to look over shoulder.

Otherwise it's a great bike Laughing

I'll look at the bikes mentioned, can't deal with having a scooter again I think.
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sub £800, you are going to be fighting with no-nothing-newbies for Learner-Legals like the CG or XR125's. Same money gets you a lot more in the big-bike world; but, commuters you want reliability. Wont earn it's keep if you have to take the CBR becouse it wont start in the morning, or its sat for a week waiting for a new battery to turn up, or whatever.
I think I would be looking for something like a CB500, or a Kawasaki GT550/750 'shaft'; Honda NTV.... or an SLR650/Dominator; maybe an MZ250, or even a Ural 650 shaftie.
But off the wall... I don't 'Do' London, & avoid the place as much as possible.... but a (shhhh) scooter!
If I had to battle that chaos every day I MIGHT just be tempted to hunt out something a 'bit' different to what I'd normally go for, and just for the laugh, a propper, classic and made of metal, Vespa or Lambretta 200... just big enough to have a bit more balls than the plastic fantastics, and a bit of 'class' in such company.
Dont know how long it might take for the novelty to wear off and want to be back on a 'propper' bike would last though!
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:
Thanks Pits.

Many reasons for not using the 916:

Had 2 non fault accidents within a month, would hate it to be the Duc.
Riding position not comfortable for start stop.
The clutch will kill my hand.
Will overheat and overheat me.
Can't see nothing in mirrors.
Not wise to ride in wet/snow.
Would hate to drop it.
Hard to look over shoulder.

Otherwise it's a great bike Laughing

I'll look at the bikes mentioned, can't deal with having a scooter again I think.


2 non fault accidents is the only logical reason,

yes the clutch does kill your hand, but if you ever end up in a cast you will have no issues cracking one off with your left.

Overheat, in this temperature, I can't even get mine past the red line (which is good as it stops my clutch slipping)

You mean you don't check to see whether your elbows are still there when riding? Laughing

Not wise to ride in snow on any bike, but the Dukes have double insulated electricals so no worry there

Don't drop it then

Look over shoulder? You should have Termis on and they should be loud as fuck, coupled together with the sexy clutch rattle people will hear you, infact it almost seems a safer bike. Mr. Green Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Laughing Laughing


You can pick something like this up slightly cheaper, on E-bay
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikes-for-sale/searchresults/detail/Kawasaki/ER-5/2000/_/R-NXGN-2196455

really good commuter bike, as is the XJ Diversion.

Really boring bikes though, but they serve their purpose very well.
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PostPosted: 17:50 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just like Mike said, you will get more for your money with a bigger bike.

I recently sold my 05 XR125 for just under £1k, which is a lot of money for a learner bike, that sort of money would easily get a good condition commuter. ER5, GS500, Divvy etc..
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Vespa or Lambretta 200


He wants something to commute on, not to push Rolling Eyes

If you were thinking of a scooter for your commute, your £800 would get you a decent older (99-01) AN400 Burgman or an X9, either of which would do the job in fine style.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yewemmgee wrote:
in fine style


Indeed Confused

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PostPosted: 19:04 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised you're not considering the middleweight commuters, you'll easily get a GS500 or earlier NTV650 for that sort of money,
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

yewemmgee wrote:
Teflon-Mike wrote:
Vespa or Lambretta 200


He wants something to commute on, not to push Rolling Eyes

If you were thinking of a scooter for your commute, your £800 would get you a decent older (99-01) AN400 Burgman or an X9, either of which would do the job in fine style.


I know, but at least when you are cought pushing a Lambretta, you can make the excuse its a 'classic'.....

Riding a Burgman, you's loose all the time you saved getting to work, trying to find somewhere to park it without any-one you know, able to see you get off and take off your helmet Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:42 - 03 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Backup commuter bike? Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:
Hi all

I've been riding into London since May now, 5 days a week, don't mind what weather.

I currently ride a CBR 600 F ('91) into work. My only back up at the moment is my Ducati 916 lol - which is not an option, not worth the risk.

I'm after a bike, ideally sub £7-800 which I can have as a back up if the CBR can't be used for whatever reason, like this morning when the alarm went off and I couldnt start it....I thought I disabled the alarm 3 years ago, never had problems till this morning :\

I'm after something, that hasn't got wide bars or wider than the CBR. If it drops (I.e. in snow) I can pick it up on my own, if it drops, doesn't do too much damage, mainly reliability!

I'm thinking of a Honda XR125, my bro used to have one and I used that, great bike, reliable and with another exhaust on there I can be heard more commuting, it's just finding one for a good price.

Any suggestions? I thought of the CG125, but not sure I'd like it (I know similar or same engine as the XR)


Don't know what sort of distance your commute is nor what sort of running costs you're looking for (?) but a gpz500 can be had in good nick for £400-800. They'll do 65-70mpg, nudge 120mph with enough acceleration and sharpish handling to be fun and are generally tough bikes even if the finish on later ones is somewhat lacking. Happy enough running all day on motorways as in town. Running costs relatively low and tyres/c&s not overly expensive.

Would definitely buy one over a Diversion 600 - mine was an absolute disaster and let me down on many occasions coupled with an utterly dull strangled feel to the engine. The GPZ is a much better ride.

Get one with an aftermarket Motad as the originals rot through very quickly and you should be happy.
I was with mine until some cnut nicked it with 80,000 miles on it while I slept...

Alternatively if a 125cc's 100mpg plus fuel economy and £25 tyres is what you're looking for I'm sure either of those you mentioned will be fine.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 04 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike I'll have to look into the bikes you suggested. My dad has a MZ250, nice sound to them.

Not interested in a scooter although recommended by many, thanks though.

Pits, wish I did have termis but they are quite pricey, standard are loud anyway! I'll have a look at the bikes mentioned.

Thanks Seb, will look into.

Cheesey, it's 44 mile round trip per day, MPG isn't a issue as I only spend about £100 per month with the CBR.

But yeah, tyres and C&S will be a bonus cheaper.

Reason I thought of a 125 was:

Very lightweight, if it falls I can pick up.
Easier to control in snow.
Cheap and easy to maintain.
Brother had one and enjoyed riding it.
Girlfriend will be learning this year so ideal bike to learn on.
CBR is used every day, 125 would just be a backup.

But now got to weigh up the options of a bigger bike, mainly price by the looks of things.
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 05 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefr0 wrote:


But now got to weigh up the options of a bigger bike, mainly price by the looks of things.

Get a 125 then. More power is more £££ to run.
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