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MotorbikerTom
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 10 Jan 2012    Post subject: Looking for a new bike. Any advice? Reply with quote

So I currently ride a GS500E and am on restriction. I am looking to change bikes in April as my GS isn't running too well and I want to get a bike which I will use for a few years (when the restriction is lifted).

I am really keen on the sv 650's, the look of them and i'd love a v-twin, but I'm also looking at Bandits, Hornets, Fazers and Thundercats.

Just posted this up to hear any thoughts or advice you guys had, or any recommendations?

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PostPosted: 23:30 - 10 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be selling a 1995 CBR 600 F very soon which is another good option (although check the insurance quotes first).

Out of all the naked, I'd probably go for the hornet. Deffo the sexiest.

I've got the Fazer, it's good, quick, reliable and economical but my god its boring.

If you're near Hampshire then you're more than welcome to a go on the CBR if you've got insurance for other bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a restricted ZZR6 and so far it is a lovely bike. Seat is very comfortable, is ludicrously fast, very very confidence inspiring. Can be picked up quite cheap, but cheap restrictors are hard to find. But its an IL4, so dunno how you feel about that.
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any of the air cooled Monsters would be good or if you don't mind the extra cost the water cooled ones. Insurance is cheap too Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

rac3r wrote:
Any of the air cooled Monsters would be good or if you don't mind the extra cost the water cooled ones. Insurance is cheap too Thumbs Up
Hey there, my knowledge of how bikes actually work is woefully poor; why do water cooled ones involve more cost?
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're looking at a Ducati bear in mind
Expensive to maintain if you buy a good one, need to do cambelts every 6k miles or every 2 years which ever comes first, valve clearances need to be checked each time or it could lunch the engine.
Aim for one with FSH from a reputable place
Make sure belts have been done £300-600 depending where you go
If the belts were the previous service, then I would consider going through the bike thoroughly to check everything else is in good order.

Don't buy a dog, they can cost a fortune if they go wrong.

That said I love my Duke and wouldn't swap it.
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PostPosted: 02:04 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went from a GS500E to a Bandit 600 then to a Hornet 600, and i did ride a few SV650's in that time.

All of those bikes are capable,

The Bandit is better for distance and stability, the hornet for lightweight sharp handling and brakes (but poor tank range)and the SV650 for the sound (i found the brakes as standard to be poor and spongy on the SV).

All of them are a fair upgrade to your goose, they will all do about 120-130 flatout.

As good as all of them are, if you are anything like me you will get bored of the middleweight de-tuned 600's after about a year.

I see them as an important stepping stone and did learn good lessons and have fun, but don't buy any of them and expect to be entirely satisfied with it for years to come (Unless you are incredibly sensible).

Might be worth looking at late 90's 600 sports bikes such as the 99 ZX6R i had or the CBR600's of the same vintage, unrestricted they are a big jump ahead of the SV's/Bandits/Hornets/Fazers etc.

Although if you are restricted the SV might take it better than a sports bike...
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PostPosted: 04:50 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't expect to keep any bike for any length of time. Few bikers I know do unless it's something like a GoldWing or a big BMW.

There's always a different bike waiting in the wings that you want to try! I've had my striple R a year now and love it, but I still look at other bikes and think, Thinking I could trade in for that! The only thing that stops me doing a spur of the moment change is her indoors Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: 09:02 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I didn't know monsters would be a good idea? I will have a little look at some quotes.

I understand I shouldn't 'expect' to have it for a certain amount of time at all, I mean I am looking for a bike which when derestricted it will bring a new edge to the bike and excite me again.

Cheers for all the replies as well Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:04 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think good advice has already been given. So instead I will just say that my restricted ZZR600 is up for sale/swap. 2000 plate, micron exhaust, about 38k miles.
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PostPosted: 12:17 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Looking for a new bike. Any advice? Reply with quote

MotorbikerTom wrote:
I am really keen on the sv 650's, the look of them and i'd love a v-twin, but I'm also looking at Bandits, Hornets, Fazers and Thundercats.

Just posted this up to hear any thoughts or advice you guys had, or any recommendations?

Cheers,
Tom.


If you want a twin, buy something other than an SV, its dull, its near enough as fun as your GS and you'll get bored again.

A hornet will be a lively increase in power. Ridden Doovy's Hornet, pretty nice but rather flat delivery...keeps revving though Thumbs Up

Not ridden the others, but I'm guessing all the basic 600s are roughly the same.

Depends what you want from a bike, comfort or fun. You don't generally get the 2 mixed together (although my bike is damn comfy and has poke)
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

there you go paddy, beechbones ZZR600 for your GSXR ? Wink
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PostPosted: 12:53 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice idea but I'm looking for a downgrade to be honest. The ZZR is worth around £1200-1500 and I because I can't sell my RXS (girlfriend riding it for a few months) I need to find somewhere else to earn a few £££.

That and the insurance on a GSXR750 is going to be NUTS for me.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

beechbone wrote:
Nice idea but I'm looking for a downgrade to be honest. The ZZR is worth around £1200-1500 and I because I can't sell my RXS (girlfriend riding it for a few months) I need to find somewhere else to earn a few £££.

That and the insurance on a GSXR750 is going to be NUTS for me.


It wont be nuts, check a 2000 GSXR750Y. Flat mate is younger than me by 4 years and insures a 92 GSXR750 for 450ish. Laughing 33hp though.

It will be a downgrade, naked bike, flat tyre... perfect Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pits wrote:
If you're looking at a Ducati bear in mind
Expensive to maintain if you buy a good one, need to do cambelts every 6k miles or every 2 years which ever comes first, valve clearances need to be checked each time or it could lunch the engine.
Aim for one with FSH from a reputable place
Make sure belts have been done £300-600 depending where you go
If the belts were the previous service, then I would consider going through the bike thoroughly to check everything else is in good order.

Don't buy a dog, they can cost a fortune if they go wrong.

That said I love my Duke and wouldn't swap it.


Monsters would probably cost less to maintain than a Jap sportsbike other than that I agree with everything you've said Laughing Annual service is about £150 and air cooled belt service + valves is £250-£300. Using Ducati independent service places is your best bet.

A fuel injected Monster would be best and as for air coooled/water cooled bikes the air cooled ones have 2 valves per cylinder and the water cooled ones are 4 vavles per cylinder. The water cooled ones are sleeved down superbike engines. More valves mean servicing is a little more expensive and also the belts are different on them and cost more.

Most people tend to do servicing on Monsters themselves as they are pretty easy to work on. Take a look on ukmonster.co.uk for more info

For me the worst thing about owning a Ducati was selling it Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an 03 bandit. It's my 1st bike and suits me so far. Has enough power to keep me entertainedfor now and is a doddle to ride. If your near south east london your welcome to take it for a spin (insurance depending)
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is very kind of yo Nick but I'm quite a way from east london and my insurance isn't on all bikes. Thanks for the offer though.

I think I'm gonna have to go and sit on some of these bikes to see which is the one for me. I'm leaning a bit more towards an IL4 as I think they will be more exciting than a V2 (No discrimination intended to v-twins, just from what I've heard they are) Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:14 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely another vote for the monster here - I have a 696 but have heard great things about the earlier models too. They have their little niggles but it gives the bike a bit of personality, They sound epic too.
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I'm surprised at the insurance group. It's roughly the same amount of money to insure a monster as it would be for any of the others I'm considering. Cheers bud Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:13 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth bearing in mind it does turn about half the petrol you put in into power, and the remaining 45% or so goes on making a lot of noise, so if you are looking for a smooth & quiet commuter ride... its probably not the best option, but then again you wouldnt even consider a duc if you wanted that. You can always get earplugs...
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Dont buy a Ducati lol

SV/Hornet/Bandit/Fazer all worthy upgrades to your 500...
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kingstondavo wrote:
Worth bearing in mind it does turn about half the petrol you put in into power, and the remaining 45% or so goes on making a lot of noise


What a waste.

Buy a TL1000R, more noise, more go, more ladies.
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's a 14L tank and you get about 100 to 130 miles from it. I would put about £10 in and then once I got near 100 miles I would fill up as I don't trust the fuel light Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason so many ducati fanbois have suggested a monster is because they are all at home because their bikes dissolved Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 11 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Looking for a new bike. Any advice? Reply with quote

##Paddy## wrote:
If you want a twin, buy something other than an SV, its dull, its near enough as fun as your GS and you'll get bored again.


Don't listen to Paddy, SV's are not dull. Razz

Though my brother does have a GS, and although my SV is much much cooler it isn't that much quicker Neutral Never had them in a proper "race" situation mind.
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