Who has to give way at this crossroad?

[GREENI3]

Can someone tell me who has the right of way at this crossroad?

https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Killigrew+Street,+Falmouth&hl=en&ll=50.15327,-5.074332&spn=0.008208,0.021136&sll=50.15544,-5.07067&sspn=0.008208,0.021136&vpsrc=0&hnear=Killigrew+St,+Falmouth,+United+Kingdom&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.153368,-5.074191&panoid=nvxZf3PnX__j9Nmb-XyMwQ&cbp=12,39.43,,0,11.88

On quite a few occasions I've been going down this hill, wanting to turn left (which is a one way road), when there is a car wanting to do the same thing approaching from the opposite road (the one with the no entry signs), and nearly ended up crashing into them.

[P.addy]

You do. Its a left turn on the left hand side of the road.

[iooi]

Plain and simple....

No one.

Its one where you have to take care.

I would approach it like a junction, where traffic lights were not working

Really one that should be thrown to the council to see if any give way lines have been removed.
Or they need to think about putting some in.
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[Walloper]

There is no ambiguity concerned at all.
The road on the right of the photo has a Giveway line so traffic wishing to go straight ahead, turn left or right has to give way.

Traffic coming from the one-way road wishing to turn Right must give way to traffic coming from the road ahead (where the camera is viewing from) as is normal.

The road on the Left hand is one-way traffic moving away from the junction so no give-way marking.

Or I do not understand the question?????

But that Chinky's looks good and I'm starving now.
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[mickfulton]

The person with right of way at that junction is probably Nutella in her Audi a3 or anyone who sleep-drives or is a selfish 'i own this road cos I'm a high power letting agent' tosser. The answer is probably never the sensible driver, on a bike especially, so I would just assume the worst and keep the speed down and the eyes wide open. But Im a big pussy.
I've heard that putting your hazard lights on gives you total road freedom to do just about any maneouvre at random so maybe try that one. [winge about many, many car drivers over - sorry had a near miss this afternoon ]
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[Dan_Davies]

i'd say the micra has to give way unless your wishing to turn right as you'd be following the road around to the left. and traffic coming toward the camera would have to give way if turning right.
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[Walloper]

[Rogerborg]

[Walloper]

[Walloper]

Fuck you Internet.

Double post.


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[Pete.]

Well, the white Micra is sitting at give way marks so that's an easy one.

You should give way to oncoming traffic when turning right so that applies to traffic travelling in the direction the camera is pointing and oncoming traffic alike. Where it looks like the problem lies, is the two-lane one-way road on the left is only short and you can either turn left or right so because anyone approaching from the camera will nearly always want to cross to the right lane and oncoming will nearly always want to cross to the left, they make the turn and lane-change in one maneuver.

One of those situations where you just keep your guard up an expect it to happen.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[stinkwheel]

Nobody has right of way on an unmarked corssroads.

Only one road has give way markings so traffic coming out of Trelawney road must give way to other traffic but other than that, it's pretty much a free-for all. If you had an accident, it would probably be a 50:50.

Common sense dictates whoever got there first has right of way. Law of the jungle dictates whoever has the largest or most agressively driven vehicle goes first.
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[Pete.]

Maybe, but markings or not, you have to give way to oncoming traffic if you are turning right and you must not make any maneuver that will cause another vehicle to change speed or direction.
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132.9mph off and walked away. Gear is good, gear is good, gear is very very good

[stinkwheel]

[Rogerborg]

[yambabe]

[Ariel Badger]

Me, White Van or Landrover always have right of way.
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[calyx]

If you want to turn left, stay on the left hand side of the road. Then you will end up on the left hand lane of the road going downhill.
If the bloke on the opposite direction wants to turn right he stays on the right hand side of the road and ends up in the right hand lane.

How the hell are you planning to crash into someone in this situation? There is enough space for 2 Mack trucks on that road ffs.
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[ninja_butler]

A lot of people get confused over right of way at crossroads (me included) and the Highway Code doesn't offer much help.

On a MARKED crossroads, traffic on the major road has right of way; traffic on the minor roads must wait.

On an UNMARKED crossroads, no one has right of way so you have to guess!


https://www.drivertrainingtoday.co.uk/learner_drivers/driving_and_safety_tutorials/crossroads.html

[stinkwheel]

[Tenko]

In this case it would be whoever arrives at the junction 1st - it will doubtless get very silly if a little old lady in a Micra gets there first and doesn't understand this, so you end up playing the very English 'you first - no, you first...' hand signalling game. If it is a tonka toy or a white van the politics change to whoever is hardest...

[weasley]

My read expands on that of yambabe and calyx.

If you are bearing left from Killigrew St (as per the BMW) you would naturally end up in the left hand lane (for Truro). If you then want to use the right hand lane (town centre) it is a lane-change and you must make indication and observation accordingly - any traffic already in that lane should have priority.

Equally, if you are bearing right from the 1-way street opposite then you will be in the right hand lane and must change lane to the left if you want to go to Truro.

That said, it is a badly planned junction that, if it was in a more inhabited part of the world would invite regular altercation - I suspect that the picture shown is the peak of traffic flow anyway.
Not to mention that the entry to Trelawny Rd is possibly illegally marked.
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[paddlesat16]

I'd contact the council and complain the junction is dangerous. I would suspect there is a roadsign missing. Giveway sign.

You have right of way and the turning is on your left, if your coming from the opposite direction you have to turn across the flow of traffic and would be expected to signal and wait for a safe entry into the flow of traffic and into the right turning(junction). Common sense dictates and the car cutting you up would be driving without due care and attention.
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[Rogerborg]

[Conon]

The junction would appear to have the proper markings, and there shouldn't be any confusion. Any vehicle coming from Trelawney Road has to give way to any vehicle coming from the one-way section of Killigrew Street. That is the only give way area on the junction, and is properly marked as such, though there appears to be a give way sign missing from further up Trelawney Road.

As for the op, coming down Killigrew and turning onto Brook St, doesn't require you to give way to any vehicle. Anyone driving on the one way stretch of Killigrew and intending to turn into Brook Street, should give way, as they are making a right turn. Though the proper way to do it would be to turn right into the right hand lane of Brook St, and thereafter look for the opportunity to move to the left lane if thats the lane you intend to take.

I suspect the problem is caused by drivers being over-eager to get into their desired lane on Brook Street.

edited for clarity and removal of mong-ness