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Recluso
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: First ride back... and I didn't kill myself! Reply with quote

Which is probably always a good thing Razz

As some of you folks probably remember/know, I decided to plow into the side of a taxi in early October which left me with a mangled wrist, also known as the bionic arm!

Well, after 3 months of no bike, I was given the all clear and went out on the road for the first time today. Big props to the lovely Clive down at Road-2-Freedom who took me out for an hour which was a massive confidence boost in itself! And it all went just grand. Couple of things to tweak (mostly hesitation based confidence issues) and only got actually jittery when we drove over 'The Junction'. Twice.

Slight change of plan though! And that is, no more DAS! Test is still planned though, it'll just mean a 2 year restriction as, after much discussion, it was felt that the big ol' Suzuki GS500's that they use for their DAS tests might not actually be the best bike for me, given my... lack of stature and that I would probably be more confident doing the test on my own 125cc until I found a bigger bike that fitted me a little better.

E: Oh, and the bike took a little more damage than I was lead to believe. Not sure of the exact details, but apparently the insurance wanted to write it off! Embarassed

So there we have it. I'm alive. I'll be back on the bike. And I promise not to drive into any more taxis.
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TheDonUK
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PostPosted: 13:35 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant be much smaller than 5'4?

Even us shorties have no real problems with GS500's and the like...

You dont need to flatfoot with both feet..
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PostPosted: 13:40 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good to hear you got back in the saddle as soon as possible though, good on ya! Good luck with your tests too Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDonUK wrote:
You cant be much smaller than 5'4?

Even us shorties have no real problems with GS500's and the like...

You dont need to flatfoot with both feet..


5'2" with the world's shortest legs and arms Razz I think from what Clive was saying, that he was more concerned about the stretch I had been at onto the handlebars as opposed to the height (which, if I remember right, I could put both balls down and one foot comfortably with a little bum slide)
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Karma for getting back in the saddle and carrying on with the training! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my DAS with Clive, decent fella. He was in the local papers not long ago for saving some people from a burning block of flats as he was passing by (ex fireman IIRC).


Anyway, good to hear you are getting back in the saddle. The longer you leave it the worse it is.
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

33bhp is fine for sensible(ish) road riding.

You're still pretty much the fastest thing about, until you get to motorway speeds and above; even then you'll hold your own OK (between maybe 80-90 (I've been told. #cough#)), just no blasting off into the distance.

And 2 years isn't really that long (although time does seem to be slowing as the end of mine approaches... Wink ).
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to ask a silly question here, but how do restrictors work? I appreciate they limit the power but how is it they do that? More to the point, how does it affect the feel to ride when you're 'maxed out' as it were? i.e. does it just feel like they won't 'go' any faster, or is it more like a 125 where you're inevitably redlining it to get that bit more oomph out of it?

The limit doesn't bother me. My plan has turned to: Get back on bike > Get confidence up > Test when able > Find something with a little more 'go' when feel ready to step up.

I'm not looking for super speed anyhow. Just something I can use to get where I want to go including having the ability to progressively use the motorway if needed.
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had a bike restricted in the carbs. It could still do a ton, and as it was the first bike I'd ridden after a 125 it felt like I could fly Smile

After I sold that my next bike had a throttle stop, That was awful. It was noticeable when you tried to twist the throttle, it didn't go anywhere. The bike still went from 0 to silly speed and could still get above the speed limit though, no problem.

Most restrictions will be un-noticeable.
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Diddylord
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done for getting back on the bike.

I'm not much taller than you if at all I have a 28" leg and started off on a ybr 125 which fitted me fine.

I now have a honda cbf 500 shown in the link below and I find it fine even at my height and arm reach I think the bars have been rotated since I first started ridding it ( long story) but I find it really comfortable.

it is restricted on the throttle cable so that it u hit a throttle stop early. this allows the bike to run and rev freely through the gears and accelerate as far as I can tell normally. I have had 90 + out of it and it would probably do more but it gets there very quick tbf. I can highly recommend that you try one of these as they are fantastic bikes for people of our size.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=92493&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=2300

good luck with getting your tests passed
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PostPosted: 18:05 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diddylord wrote:
Well done for getting back on the bike.

I'm not much taller than you if at all I have a 28" leg and started off on a ybr 125 which fitted me fine.

I now have a honda cbf 500 shown in the link below and I find it fine even at my height and arm reach I think the bars have been rotated since I first started ridding it ( long story) but I find it really comfortable.

it is restricted on the throttle cable so that it u hit a throttle stop early. this allows the bike to run and rev freely through the gears and accelerate as far as I can tell normally. I have had 90 + out of it and it would probably do more but it gets there very quick tbf. I can highly recommend that you try one of these as they are fantastic bikes for people of our size.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=92493&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=2300

good luck with getting your tests passed


Funny enough the CBF 500 has been one of the bikes I've been looking at. Whilst it was suggested that I consider trying a cruiser, I'm really just not a fan of them, (my brother on the other hand, is madly in love with the Yamaha Dragstar) much preferring the streety, naked look that you have with bikes like the YBR. Although admittedly I DO like those with the more streamlined, pointy headlight Razz

So far, I've really liked the look of the Honda CBF 500 and the Honda Hornet, Kawasaki ER-6n and the Yamaha XJ-6 (notice a theme in style? Razz). Of course, nothing's set in stone and now that I'm set to do the restricted test as opposed to my original DAS plan, it does mean I'll likely hold onto the YBR a bit longer than anticipated whilst I find something Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recluso wrote:
TheDonUK wrote:
You cant be much smaller than 5'4?

Even us shorties have no real problems with GS500's and the like...

You dont need to flatfoot with both feet..


5'2" with the world's shortest legs and arms Razz I think from what Clive was saying, that he was more concerned about the stretch I had been at onto the handlebars as opposed to the height (which, if I remember right, I could put both balls down and one foot comfortably with a little bum slide)


Fook, what size of balls do you have? Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:45 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Balls of my feet, smarty-pants!
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recluso wrote:
I'm going to ask a silly question here, but how do restrictors work? I appreciate they limit the power but how is it they do that?


As though beyond a certain point however much you open the throttle the engine isn't getting the throttle opened further.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:19 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Recluso wrote:
I'm going to ask a silly question here, but how do restrictors work? I appreciate they limit the power but how is it they do that?


As though beyond a certain point however much you open the throttle the engine isn't getting the throttle opened further.

All the best

Keith


Like this, if they're carb intake restrictions. They make the hole the air goes through (much) smaller... less air = less petrol sucked in = less combustion = less power.

The upshot on my bandit, at least, is that it seems fine but really doesn't want to rev past maybe 9,500 (redline is 12,000... I think it woudl get there but I've got too much mechanical sympathy to push it past about 10). You keep most of the low and mid-range torque though which is more useful in regular riding anyway. You're in the 6-7,000 range at real Mway speeds so it's fine.





Having said all that, only 10 weeks to go for me Wink
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 15 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get in while the getting's good. A is A, in the final analysis.

All I remember of the original incident is a Batman shirt full of boobs. How are they? Not to knocked about, I trust.
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PostPosted: 09:20 - 16 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for clarifying the workings of restricters. I had ideas as to how they worked but it's nice to know for sure.

And yes Roger, the boobs are just fine. As was the Batman t-shirt Razz
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PostPosted: 12:13 - 16 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

defblade wrote:

The upshot on my bandit, at least, is that it seems fine but really doesn't want to rev past maybe 9,500 (redline is 12,000... I think it woudl get there but I've got too much mechanical sympathy to push it past about 10). You keep most of the low and mid-range torque though which is more useful in regular riding anyway. You're in the 6-7,000 range at real Mway speeds so it's fine.


It should rev just as far (given that without load it takes on a gnats of throttle to hit the red line), but won't have the power to overcome any reasonable load.

At lower revs it will make far less difference as full throttle isn't really gaining you much down there. For some idea of the effects get a copy of a Bike magazine road test where they have dynoed a bike on full throttle and on 40% throttle and compare how little difference there is at lower revs yet how the difference dramatically increases with revs. And on a reasonable size bike the amount of throttle for 33hp compared to full power is a likely to be a lot less than 40%.

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:15 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Bionic Woman for getting back on your bike Karma
Pleased to hear you are feeling better and good luck for when you take your tests. Thumbs Up
I am taller than you, but have short legs. I am thinking about moving on to either a Suzuki Gladius or ER6-N after doing my tests. I like the look of them and both are 'short-leg friendly'.
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MadCatLady wrote:
Well done Bionic Woman for getting back on your bike Karma
Pleased to hear you are feeling better and good luck for when you take your tests. Thumbs Up
I am taller than you, but have short legs. I am thinking about moving on to either a Suzuki Gladius or ER6-N after doing my tests. I like the look of them and both are 'short-leg friendly'.


I do like the ER-6Ns Very Happy My local dealership (Morse's Motorcycles, lovely people) had a lush one in just before christmas (when I was doing my DAS). I'm keeping an eye out for one in my vicinity Very Happy (sadly we don't seem to get many around here).
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Congrats on the recovery and getting back on.

I'm 5'2" and inside leg of 28" so thought I would struggle passed and got my xj600 which I had to have the seat shaved a little to feel better height wise but I have just switched to a cbr600f and can barely tiptop with both feet but with a bum slide and thinking about road position etc I have been getting along really well with it.

Loads of help on the short arse sticky! and found it really useful.

Dont let your reach put you off too much but in the end its how comfy and confident you feel.

Good Luck Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:48 - 17 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

maccidees2002 wrote:
Congrats on the recovery and getting back on.

I'm 5'2" and inside leg of 28" so thought I would struggle passed and got my xj600 which I had to have the seat shaved a little to feel better height wise but I have just switched to a cbr600f and can barely tiptop with both feet but with a bum slide and thinking about road position etc I have been getting along really well with it.

Loads of help on the short arse sticky! and found it really useful.

Dont let your reach put you off too much but in the end its how comfy and confident you feel.

Good Luck Thumbs Up


Funny enough, the XJ600 was also one recommended.

I have read the shortarse sticky Very Happy It's immensely helpful f'sure!
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