Failed my Cbt

[boogle]

Hey guys, im new to this forum i just need people to talk to who can help me, i am 17 years old i have social anxiety disorder which you may know of which i think may have effected this. i booked my 125cc cbt last week i failed on saturday and i have the worst feeling only good thing is that they let me go back again on Wednesday and to be honest i was prity shocked at how little i knew they didnt ask us who has ridden a bike before or anything i was the only 17 year old there everyone else was like 20+ i felt very insecure and when i made a mistake i panicked and felt that i was under pressure to much. It was a Saturday morning so i wasnt feeling so good i went to bed late i couldn't even really concentrate i was looking down alot.. due to my disorder i made a little mistake and they told me to try a moped, and i felt so bad with myself and disgusted at myself and wanted to just do something to my self i had the most horrible experience of my life, i got on the ped and did better but this happened like 1 hour before lunch so i couldnt go out yet or they just didnt want me on the road. on a ped the other people that where there rid bikes for ages and didnt look/ act like they where beginners they all had alot of riding experience by riding off road or a mates bike, to be fair i dont think the instructure treated me right if i asked a question they where unpatient it was 3 2 instructures and 9 people i dont know about you guys but i thought it was ment to be like 1 instructure 3 people? i wasn't getting the help i needed feel prity shit now i lost my 90 quid and not even confident on passing might just do moped just wanted to clear that up and that was the most embarrassed day of my life anyone got tips for next cbt? or shall i not bother. thanks if you read this all sorry for grammar im just in a bit of a rush thanks again.

[SkyRider]

I wish I knew what to say, ive not got as far as my cbt yet, I have only been on the forum a short while but everyone has been really lovely and I'm sure many people here will be able to give you advice.

When I go for my cbt I'll be a complete novice too, and being 34 and female I will feel under a lot of pressure to, so can appreciate how you feel. Being part of this forum I think will help me as so many people here willing to help and if not help they will try to raise a smile. I hope you find it as welcoming here as I have and that it elps you too.

Personally I'd say never give up, if you want it take everyone else out of the equation and be assertive in getting them to support you, I know it is easier said than done but ts your time and money - you are employing them. Maybe try a different company before hand tell them of your experience of this time and ask how they will help you achieve what you want to.

Best of luck and I hope I'll be one of many congratulating you in the near future when you pass
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[Easter Bunny]

Obvisiously saturdays the busiest day, ask them whens the quietest? can you make that? would be less pressure!
& yes of course try again!

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[boogle]

thanks so much for your reply, well to be honest with you i dont even think i will pass moped i gto work on my turns cause i allways look at the speedo meeter which is wrong you cant go the way you want to go without looking there (for short period of time) but i allways lose control and hopfully i can pass ill be so happy even if its just a ped and when im abit older or when i get a job and can afford to spend 90 quid i will do cbt alot i know if i failed cbt twice i shouldnt be on a bike but maybe another cbt training centre can teach me better and treat me with a little more respect and understand im a novice rider, thanks so much for replying SKYRIDER

[boogle]

[SkyRider]

Your welcome, stay positive there is no time limit on these things - you do it
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- Hot_Potata's Girl - CBT - 26/07/11
xx Angels get their wings....bad girls get their wheels!!! xx

[boogle]

[Nope.]

Sorry to hear that you failed

Most schools will offer a redo day for free (I say MOST), I certainly know that the day I did mine on two of the guys failed and were sent home early with a number to rebook for free and a girl turned up on the morning who had failed the previous week because she locked the front brake on and went head over tit.

If I were you, I would give it another go, for some people it comes naturally and for others its a learning curve but you'll get there eventually.
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[Rogerborg]

Mmm, it does sound like you have a confidence problem that isn't going to get solved when there's a yard full of folk watching you.

As you noted, it's much easier to do the CBT if you've ragged a bike around for a bit beforehand. So, do you have any mates with bikes you can let you have a go in a car park or industrial estate when there's nobody with a clipboard around? Honestly, giving it some beans is the best way to convince yourself that you can in fact handle a bike.

That said, a CBT should be suitable for someone with no experience at all. If you believe that your anxiety meets the criteria for being a disability then the Equality Act 2010 requires anyone providing a service to the public to make "reasonable adjustments" to assist you.

And if you feel that you have a complaint against the training centre and they aren't helping you, then you can contact the DSA, although you may want to get someone to check your grammar and spelling.

That said, it does sound like you'd be better off going elsewhere. When I did my CBT there was a very nervous student who got bumped from a geared bike to a ped, but in a very gentle and positive way. They bent over backwards to try and get her confidence up, and I wouldn't expect any less from a decent training school.

So I'd suggest that you contact the other local schools and explain your condition up front. It may even be worth asking if you can pay extra to get a few hours of 1:1 or 1:2 tuition.

Best of luck with it.
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[lihp]

What you have to remember also is that the CBT has no pass and fail.

So you don't need to think of it as Failing.

It is training not a test, they're just bringing you up to a safe standard, whether it takes 1 or 2 or 3 days it doesn't matter, so long as you reach the safe standard.

Dropping a bike on a CBT will never be good for your confidence, but at least you've experienced that bit early on, as everybody does it eventually.

I dropped my R6 twice, once forgetting to put the side stand down, and the 2nd time slipping on wet grass, after cleaning the bike. So no need to stress yourself about dropping a bike, it's an experience that makes up a biker.

Although you have to remember that if you did the CBT on a very busy day at the busiest time of year, with that many other students, it wouldn't be fair on the 8 others to hold them back for 1 or 2 people, it would be easier to get the 1 or 2 to come back on another day, try to see the bigger picture. It's not because your shit, but because they have a duty to everybody.

Discuss your requirements with them, and you'll find that Wednesday will probably be quieter and you'll get more attention.

[waffles]

[lihp]

[Kwaks]

When the instructors were pointing at you when you did a manouvre wrong, then they would simply have been explaining to the others where you had gone wrong. It would have not been a slight on your abilities.
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[anthony_r6]

When I did my CBT, I couldn't quite get the hang of the slow riding stuff. The way the guy was explaining it to me, I just couldn't follow (It wasn't making sense in my head). There were two other lads there too, but they were both youngish and on automatic Mopeds/Scooters, so he was fairly short on time for me as an individual. All the slow stuff was really hard for me to pick up with this guy, I'm not saying he was a bad teacher, but just didn't work for me. I messed up the slow stuff, and so had 'failed' the CBT.

They got another guy out to me when he went on the road with the other two. Changed the bike for an identical model with a better clutch, he explained to me what I was needing to do and I had no trouble doing the manoeuvres. We went on the road that day, but I over accelerated about 3 times while turning, nearly ending up in a wall, then oncoming traffic.

Went back a few days later for a hour session on the road, and got my CBT done. Once you get your own bike, and get used to your handling, clutch, brakes, etc. You do a lot better.

Not getting your CBT first time isn't the end of the world, especially since it's done a lot of the time by people without prior experience. You don't expect to Sky Dive on your own right away, same concept applies.

Good Luck, and don't give up!
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[GF-91]

Give it another try on a quieter day. Good luck. If it makes you feel any better I fell off and hurt my knee on mine

[maccidees2002]

Def Give it another try when quieter Good luck
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[Beelzebob]

I would say give it another try mate.

Basically you've got to weigh up the benefits (cheap, exciting bike-based shenanigans, feeling of achievement when you pass) versus the negatives (money, stress to you during the course, potential failure).

I don't envy your position but I hugely respect you for getting as far as you have. I don't know about your condition but I have friends who have had anxiety in the past and it's not fun, and very difficult to deal with.

The advice so far has been good - try and get a quieter day, perhaps some 1-to-1 tuition if you can? It's worth having a chat with the school or, failing that, another school, and just going over what particular additional challenges you are having to deal with. If they don't want to know - fuk em. There's plenty more training schools staffed by decent people who are willing to help.

Good luck - let us know how you get on
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[ThoughtContro...]

Definitely try it again. I didn't even get out the car park on my first attempt. Kept stalling the bike and totally fucked up clutch control.

If you've got any mates with bikes who can let you play about with clutch and gears somewhere isolated with no coppers around then that might be a big help.

You definitely need an instructor with some patience too, and a school that is not a CBT mass production line, where any struggling students will get left way behind.
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[boogle]

Thank you all for your reply's as i edge near to the day now i have the same feeling i had then i am extremely nervous and not one bit of me thinks i can pass i don't think i can even pass on a ped.. i feel worse now and my dad is teasing me about it and other family members i just feel worthless and am so pissed of at myself this is the worst feeling in the world maybe biking isn't me? but every time i see someone riding one i say to my self HOW FUCKING LUCKY! i am never going to do driving lessons fucking hate cars cant stand them. i thought biking would be the way to go but if im retarded and cant even pass cbt again.. (on a ped this time) then im seriously going to just know im retarded... ive never felt this bad in my life this two weeks are the worst days i feel guilty that i wasted my mums 90quid
just to come home and say i fucked up. i didn't want to tell her but she would wonder why i came back early i got to hand it to you bikers i respect you guys so much i don't know how you do it, i think your gods to me. i will post back on how i do and i am positive i will fail and i don't have friends with bikes or peds that i can practice on. thanks for help again guys.

P.s sorry for wasting your guys time because im sure you could be helping someone who isn't retarded.

[anthony_r6]

The problem seems to be the pressure. At the end of the day, you're doing it for you. There is no 'fail' on the CBT, you just don't pass it. You can try it again as many times as you like. Maybe take a one hour lesson with them prior to the CBT so you can remove the 'test' conditions that it seems to be. Not getting it, isn't the end of the world. You're not letting anyone else down when you don't pass, it doesn't affect anyone but you, so anyone else's opinion on the matter is irrelevant.

Where I did it, the guy told me that about 50% of people fail it first time. A lot of it is down to no previous experience, not knowing what to expect, clutch control is bike dependant, and given that you've never been on it before, you're bound to struggle.

Don't give up, don't concern yourself with what others think, and when you pass it, you'll be on top of the world. You'll look back and wonder what the big deal was.

Good Luck!
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Ted : "Maybe he's agoraphobic."
Dougal : "Jack scared of fighting? I don't think so, Ted."

[blito]

I would think there are a fair number of us who took a couple of attempts to get the cbt right. I tried to pull away with the bike in neutral on my cbt, sent the Honda CG's revs skyward and then forced the 'box into 1st without letting go of the throttle.... one amazing wheelie across a busy roundabout and one invitation to come back the following week. On the 2nd attempt I rode a different bike (kwak KE 100) and enjoyed 1-on-1 tuition and had a great time.

Stick with it m8, just relax and enjoy the ride

[MotorbikerTom]

Saturday's are very busy for Motorbike Training Centers and thus they will be wanting to get through it all when there are more people there. If you were the youngest then they would probably have more of a connection with the older guys as they are obviously similar ages and 'more sensible'.

The main thing is to not go out of your comfort zone. If you feel like your not ready to go out on the road, or that you think you may cause an accident etc, then don't just because you feel like you have to. Going out of your comfort zone is when it becomes dangerous.

Be careful buddy and stay safe
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[Stacey]

I failed my first CBT ... I was so annoyed

[ThoughtContro...]

[Howling TerrorOutOfOffice]

Hi, you've not helped yourself by not preparing.


Good grub then early to bed..better having 8 hours of broken sleep than 6.
All paperwork waiting next to any kit you've got.
Good brekkie with drinks, butties and banana for lunch.

Do you know anyone willing to sacrifice their bike to you? Reason i'm asking, i'd probably would of been crappy on my CBT without knowing how to start and stop the thing. Made me feel better being one step ahead. (I may of been 1 step too far as i rode my XL125 to the CBT place. + )

I did 2 CBTs before i went for the test, and the 1st CBT was a joke. A bloke using a carpark on a Sunday morning. He used tiny plastic cones that kept on blowing around. He rushed me through dinner...and i hate being rushed when eating egg butties, and he signed my certificate under the roof of a disused garage...(it was peeing it down so quite sensible)

2 years of riding later and it was CBT time. I used the place my g/f did her CBT. Totally different... obviously. I could ride a motorcycle, but it also gave me the chance to see how well a course could be run.
Nice area for the manoeuvres with a go-kart track to go around when it wasn't your turn for 1 on 1.

My g/f had done some googling and found that travelling further was going to be worth it. (Damn them women and their shopping around skills)

I know little of disorders..know one thing..don't give in to them...Battle with them.

[If you are a proper nut-job..please disregard the above and walk more]
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