Car driver does 147mph gets 6 points BIKER?

[fatpies]

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-condemn-147mph-jaguar-driver-191519243.html


TL : DR - Car driver clocked at 147mph, denied it was him gets 6 points and a totting up ban after getting a total of 12 points. 9 month ban £700 in expenses. Slap on wrist.

OTOH Kitten killing biker?

Biker 139mph

www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/General-news/2009/July/jul2009-12-months-jail-for-speeding-biker/

Biker 122mph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4927401/Biker-jailed-for-speeding-at-122mph-with-14-year-old-son-on-back.html

Both went to prison.

Wut?
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[Paris2]

Moral of the story, dont get caught

But seriously, what the fudge!
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[Kingstondavo]

As much as I agree.... 122mph with a 14yr old kid as a pillion is disgraceful. Definitely deserving of jail time.

[Villers]

[dsb79]

What, we are dirty antisocial chap wearing thugs, who do nothing but harass our neighbours and fill in the old biddies that get in the way!!!! Well thats what most of the middle upper class think of us anyway.

[dsb79]

Double post!

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Kingstondavo]

The first one isn't so bad, and definitely not as bad as the car driver but the second biker...

"The court heard the camera picked up an image of the boy, who was not wearing gloves or protective trousers, holding the back of the seat with his bare hands."

Seriously, some bikers really don't help themselves/the general image out at all...

[Villers]

Although from a purely legal standpoint its irrelevant what the kid was wearing. Theres no law about gloves or trousers so therefore it should have no bearing on whatever punishment is meted out.

To be judged liable for a punishment with what you are wearing taken into account is ridiculous in my opinion.

As a parent its a stupid thing to be doing though.
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[anthony_r6]

As a rider/biker we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. All we ever see these days is bikers being killed, drivers coming up with some bullshit excuse as to why it happened, deferring the blame from themselves and effectively getting away with it, and they wonder why car drivers don't give a crap.

Start going over the speed limit on your bike and you're public enemy number 1. I don't condone the speeding with the kid on the back, especially considering the conditions and the lack of gear, but there is a real uneven balance when it comes to speeding in a car/on bike and getting caught.

It's sickening.
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[fatpies]

Erm you've kind of missed the point.

In that the car speeds even faster yet only gets 6 points.

While bikers passing just over 100 get time in prison.

The disparity in severity of punishment is what I'm on about.
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[st3v3]

I posted this a while back: https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/9398715.Motorcyclist_banned_from_road_after_riding_bike__at_116mph/

They're about 10/15 miles apart, same sort of road and layout.

The Jag driver has got a 9month ban, but still.

Shocking stuff.
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[Polarbear]

[motobiker]

Any crim will tell you the same.. at any court there are some judges you want to be in front of and some you definitely don't.

Judges have sentencing guidelines.. one judge might always take ah hard-line to a certain offence. Another might take a very different attitude.

If you get caught doing something so naughty that there is the possibility of a custodial sentence.. then hope you go before a lenient judge and not a hard faced one who loves to throw the book at miscreants.

Obviously.. if you think you have been treated unfairly then you are free to appeal.

My point is.. you cannot really compare different sentences for on the face of it similar offences. it doesn't work like that. there are so many factors involved.. not least the attitude of the judge, the competence of your brief. your own attitude and appearance and the evidence against you plus the way it is presented.
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[Villers]

[Kingstondavo]

[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[Rogerborg]

Blame the coppers and CPS. The codger in the Jaaag was only done for speeding, both bikers were done for Dangerous Driving.

There's a couple of lessons from the first bike case.

First, when stopped, anything that you say can and will be used as evidence against you. Say nothing.

Second, oh myyyyy:

[Flemy]

[quote="fatpies"]Biker 122mph...
with-14-year-old-son-on-back.html

...went to prison.quote]

I'm not suprised 122mph with a child pillion...
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[Wafer_Thin_Ham]

[daemonoid]

[Walloper]

I'd lock the lot of em up.
Crush all the bikes and throw all the keys away.
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[Polarbear]

Trouble is that I bet a good percentage of the judges & magistrates agree with you!
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[lilredmachine]

The disparity is amazing. I'd just keep collecting examples like this so that when you are inevitably tugged over the ton (being dangerous, child killing bikers) and get taken to court you can appeal the bullshit sentence they meat out.
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[Polarbear]