Can I take the test without Lessons

[la_lucha]

Alright everyone, I have had 125's on CBT's in the past but this has now expired. What I want to know is, can I take a test that will allow me on any bike (I'm 28) without lessons? I've found out the DAS is £585 but with a CBT @ £100 and the tests at £85 for mod 1 and 2, what stops me going in for the tests without lessons? I figure I already know how to ride and the CBT will help me brush up on the rules that tend to be forgotten once your out on the road.

Say I fail mod 1 and mod 2 it's still only going to cost me £270 to do each test twice and the CBT?

Anyone with some experience please help me out?

[Kernowscoot]

Don't forget the cost of bike hire for DAS.

Unless you do it on your own 125 and have the 33bhp restriction for 2 years

[la_lucha]

TBH I only plan on getting a little 125 for a couple of years anyway.

So I could do CBT, Mod 1 and 2 on my own bike with no lessons/DAS course. I would then be restricted to 125 for 2 years?

It's really confusing this getting into Biking stuff.

[demon9374]

[la_lucha]

[Rogerborg]

There is absolutely no requirement to have any lessons.

You'll need:
A valid CBT (DL196) certificate obtained in the past 2 years.
A motorcycle theory test pass obtained in the past 2 years.
A 121-125cc bike generating no more than 11kW but capable of 100kph+, i.e. listed as A2 on this list - or which at least looks like it can do 100kph and hasn't got ZingPing JoyCycle branding on it.
Book a 'standard' motorcycle Mod 1 test at direct.gov. Pass it.
Book a 'standard' motorcycle Mod 2 test at direct.gov. Pass it.

Congratulations, you now have category "A" entitlement, limited to 25kW for 2 years after which it automatically upgrades to full A without any further action on your part, as per 91/439/EEC. Job done.

If you're going to go that route, do it ASAP since the rules are changing for the worse next January, and test centres might get chocka this summer.
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[la_lucha]

[J.M.]

Just as a side note: As you're 28 you could also do DAS. You do not need to take any lessons for this either, but the tests must be done on a bike of 46.6bhp - which you may only ride under instructor supervision (I believe.)

So in reality for that to be an option you may well have to find a school that will hire its bikes to you, without you having to purchase lessons - something they are not obliged to do.

If you don't mind having a restriction on your back then doing the standard test on a 125, as roger suggests, is the much more convenient option as the bike is your own and you can legally ride it on your own.
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[la_lucha]

Cheers Jordan, I'm on a limited budget and seeing as I don't really need a big bike I might just go for the 125 test and see out the restriction.

[P.addy]

[Rogerborg]

[mickfulton]

I would recommend going through the tests with minimal lessons just for the smug factor if nothing else.
If you have driven a car for a few years its probably easier though.
Here's my quickly made-up 8 steps to success.

As your after a 125 - get as many miles under your belt to know the machine, ingrain correct lifesavers into your noodle and practice, practice, practice.

Get to know the Mod 1 lay out via google, go watch some Mod 1s at your local, do some mock ones in your local deserted car park at night probably using cds as cones.

Find out test routes for Mod 2 and spend a few days in that area riding around till its familiar turf.

Read a book or two if possible (preferably on riding )

IF YOU CAN get an experienced 'good' biker to follow you and critique - maybe one lesson before Mod 2 with enough time to work on any comments before the tests day.

Don't act like a div on the test days.

Find religion on mod 2 morning.

Stay in school.

That's about it IMHO ......Good luck with what ever route you take.
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Exes: YBR 125 2007,GPZ500S 1998

[la_lucha]

Mick, you've pretty much summed up what I was thinking. Take the CBT, use it for a month or two then maybe have one lesson and take the test. If I fail re-book. Good thing is the mod1 centre is only 13 mile from work so it'd only be 2/3 hours out of the office to take it.

[la_lucha]

Can I take my CBT and test on a big bike that's restricted to 33bhp?
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Feck Orf

[Muscle Bike Rider]

Myself and a few others on here took out tests without any lessons and passed mod1 and mod2 first time. Plenty of road experience, you tube and pop to you local test centre to watch a few people do theirs.
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[Rogerborg]