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Cheeseybeaner
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Quadrophenia Reply with quote

Hadn't actually seen it before though was on the other night and caught some of it, what a great 'youth rebellion' film. Interesting era.

Who hasn't felt like this at some point though! :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK00U2WiIT8&feature=related
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Quadrophenia Reply with quote

Cheeseybeaner wrote:
Who hasn't felt like this at some point though! :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lK00U2WiIT8&feature=related


Like what? Chucking an over accessorised Lambretta under a Comer van?

I would have to confess..... err..... no.!

So, go on, what do you think of the film? Subtle social commentry on the friction and angst of 1960's youth? Or a 1980's nostalgia piece, failing to grapple with anything of any real substance? OR just an old film, lacking any real story of nominal entertainment value?

Interesting; it is the 'British' Easy Rider, and raises a lot of the same questions.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah the path to self-destruction. Looks like a good movie but the kid does seem a bit messed up. We all get wound up from time to time but, I think public displays of madness like that is a step beyond normal behaviour.
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best bit is when Phil Daniels is 'out of his brain on the train' - he clearly did some narcotic research to get that bit right!!!
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's message probably wasn't that mods and scooterists are total bell ends, but it's certainly the message I came away with. Razz
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PostPosted: 15:37 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Quadrophenia Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:


Like what? Chucking an over accessorised Lambretta under a Comer van?

I would have to confess..... err..... no.!

So, go on, what do you think of the film? Subtle social commentry on the friction and angst of 1960's youth? Or a 1980's nostalgia piece, failing to grapple with anything of any real substance? OR just an old film, lacking any real story of nominal entertainment value?

Interesting; it is the 'British' Easy Rider, and raises a lot of the same questions.


The film was made in 1979 (rather than the 80s) based on the 1973 musical by The Who of the same name. Not too sure if it could be considered a nostalgia piece as such.
I haven't seen it in its entirety but the whole mods and rockers era is fascinating, that British youth took their rival biking identities that seriously, hard to picture a 2-wheeled clash of cultures like that today! The (negative) media attention and shock it generated to middle England as they descended on seaside towns. Seems funny to think that biking subcultures could have generated so much sensationalism. Completely different era, some of the stiff sounding Pathe news reports are so funny to watch!

As to feeling like that I meant losing your temper with some driver whose just knocked you off your cherished bike!
Admittedly he seems to have just pulled out on the post van so it was his own fault but the passion with which he's digging into him for 'killing his scooter' is something I can empathise with! You cunt!
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Quadrophenia Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:

So, go on, what do you think of the film?

An excellent portrayal of the 'come down' as well as other general drug related stuff - I'm always impressed how wrong American (and British) films manage to represent drug use and culture when I'm sure the people creating it should have plenty of experience!
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Re: Quadrophenia Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:

Like what? Chucking an over accessorised Lambretta under a Comer van?

I would have to confess..... err..... no.!

So, go on, what do you think of the film? Subtle social commentry on the friction and angst of 1960's youth? Or a 1980's nostalgia piece, failing to grapple with anything of any real substance? OR just an old film, lacking any real story of nominal entertainment value?

Interesting; it is the 'British' Easy Rider, and raises a lot of the same questions.


Quoted for posterity. A post from Teflon Mike that didn't make me want to scoop out my eyeballs by the time I've scrolled down in Firefox...
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love that movie, and being old enough to have had some fun as the second generation of bike v scooter troublemakers in the 70's and early 80's It's class nostalgia for me Thumbs Up

I remember having an extremely beautiful but psycho welsh bint on the back of my Z650 one bank holiday in Weston super mare. A group of us were riding past a row of parked scooters when she stuck her foot out and started trying to kick them over. Queue the domino theory of scooters Shocked

We were rather outnumbered so discretion being the better part of valour, we did a runner out of town Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

i love the film

but im into vespas so that woild explain that

strange though i never got into the stupid suits and stuff

but i do ride in a parker
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PostPosted: 17:01 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
andyscooter wrote:


strange though i never got into the stupid suits and stuff

but i do ride in a parker


Herein lies a big difference between a motorcyclist of the time and a scooter riding Mod - the Mod has the scooter as another part of his wardrobe but most bikers ride bikes cos they like to. Although I reckon some of the sports bikes I see ridden around are "worn" like a fashion accessory rather than rode.


Mods didn't like riding their scooters?
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Cheeseybeaner wrote:


Mods didn't like riding their scooters?


How can you, they're bloody awful Razz I suppose if you havn't ridden a big wheeled bike you might think they're OK. Very Happy

Getting off a bike and onto a scooter, they feel like death traps.


Well I rode a couple on holiday, they weren't bad, great for convenience. I hired a big wheeled black Kymco 125 which I thought would be terrible but was actually pretty good. Much better than the crappy Yamaha DragStar which we crashed just before!
Does feel funny though as there's no weight towards the front end, weight distribution is totally different of course.
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh, those days... The Who (mods) or the Stones (Rockers), scooter or bike, you chose sides and it was tribal.
Maybe that is why the vast bulk (literally in some cases) of 'bikers' these days hark from that era. The one thing the film does portray well is the colour of the mid sixties. Most mainline films of the day were black and white 'grim up north' potboilers, it was actually a great time to be alive, if you were young. No unemployment, a 'youth culture' getting up to full steam, the fact that you had two wheels or walked, (cars too expensive then), with myriad cafs and pubs to go to. Little or none of the overbearing restrictions you have today. In my memory, even the weather was better, certainly the music was!
I look at the nonces of today and shake my head, a mere shadow of what was.
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
I see ridden around are "worn" like a fashion accessory rather than rode.

Also, most big BMW GS bikes and cruisers Smile.
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember the 2nd generation in the early 80s. A group of 'scooter boys' chopped up my nearly new black GP125 with machettes one bank holiday weekend. Some mates and I sat by the side of the A12 watching scooters going to G Yarmouth, when a couple of cars pulled up, 8 thick-neckked sarf London geezers got out and proceeded to hack away at my bike... My mates legged it but I stayed, rooted with fear. The Old Bill caught them further up the road as a little old lady had phoned the registrations in.

By way of retribution we hid on the banking and shot a few with catapaults as they passed by on the way back. We got a chase and were caught by the plod. Nice blokes at Woodbridge, they let us off with a caution, saying they totally understood our angst!!! Now that's community policing...
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

This film is on par with easy rider and hell ride for it's shiteness. Fuckin' dreadful movie. Karma
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flip wrote:
This film is on par with easy rider and hell ride for it's shiteness. Fuckin' dreadful movie. Karma


I thought Easy Rider was great personally.

Haven't seen Quadrophenia in its entirety but liked what I saw of it the other night, the bit where he rides off the cliff at the end was impressive.

Quite an existentialist sort of a film really.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 26 Nov 2011    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll probably enjoy it, I seem to be one of the few that didn't. It was being hyped by a scooter rider in work so I gave in and watched it. Smile With Easy Rider, I just watch two drug dealers riding choppers wonder what it had to do with bikers. Laughing

Just my opinions, I'm not trying to spoil the film for you. Smile
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