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Mikey3
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Car eye test! Reply with quote

So, reading MCN today, it appears that the good old government (who only make decisions based on our best interests, primarily safety) are changing the eye test part of the driving test.
They are changing the distance of number plate recognition (and overall eyesight of course, this being the only eye test) from 65 feet to 57 feet.
Couple this with the compulsory High-vis for motorcycles and it seems the motive for the high-vis has potentially changed?
not to mention the 3 point turn in the driving test being changed to 'a turn in the road' due to candidates inability.
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PostPosted: 22:12 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Car eye test! Reply with quote

mredhead wrote:

not to mention the 3 point turn in the driving test being changed to 'a turn in the road' due to candidates inability.


I sat my driving test in 1994 and it was 'a turn in the road' then.
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

So it went to '3 point turn' and back to 'turn in the road'?
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was doing my "turn in the road" and some cock tried to overtake me (and the car that was waiting for me to complete the manoeuvre) whilst I was actually blocking off most of the road.

Cue that with almost witnessing another accident only 5 minutes previously.

But those two aren't really anything compared to what happened on my lesson prior to the test. I'm approaching a give way junction, cars are approaching. I stop at the junction and I'm indicating left. Old man drives past me and stops just after the junction (in position to reverse around it.) I wait whilst I try and understand what the guy is doing (surely he's not going to reverse in to me?!) Just as I am preparing to move away and drive around him, his reverse lights come on. Surely he's not going to reverse in to me after driving past me? Yup, he starts to reverse around the corner. He got to meet my lovely horn. (He didn't hit me in the end, he stopped after we sounded the horn.)

Personally though, I think that they should be making the test harder, not easier. Honestly speaking, I probably shouldn't have passed my driving test - yet I did with 5 minors. The lesson before I was rubbish. Absolutely rubbish. I just had a good test. Not to say I'm a rubbish driver, but I've certainly got a hell of a lot more learning to do. (Not that I'm getting a car Laughing)
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

that was my point, its just funny how they're happy to make the bike test drastically harder, and far more long winded.
And yet they're making the car test easier, (surely that level of driving you mention just backs up the point more) and shortening the eye test aswell as making us wear compulsory high vis.
The car test becoming easier isn't the main focus of my point, but the hardening of the bike test in comparison, almost to justify the incapability of car drivers (most).
All very well making us easier to be seen, but making the car driver allowed to not see us until later (and thus closer) seems ridiculous
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mredhead wrote:
So it went to '3 point turn' and back to 'turn in the road'?

What the examiner refers to as a "turn in the road" is what Joe Public would refer to as a "3 point turn". Officially it isn't a 3 point turn because you can do it in 5 points, or 7, as long as your observation etc is correct.

Back to the original point and I would have expected this to be a "bring us in line with Europe" initiative. But as 65 feet is a round 20 metres and 57 feet is a less round 17.3 metres. So it probably isn't.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mredhead wrote:
that was my point, its just funny how they're happy to make the bike test drastically harder, and far more long winded.


The old "they" were the nuLabor government gold-plating the hell out of a Euro dictat.

The new "they" are the Tories under Mike "the bike" Penning who has already made the Mod 1 test easier (and more sensible) and is pushing ahead with reverting back to a single test.

All "they" are not the same.
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Car eye test! Reply with quote

mredhead wrote:

Couple this with the compulsory High-vis for motorcycles and it seems the motive for the high-vis has potentially changed?
Mike


I'd heard this for France and ROI but nothing over here. I know you are expected to go in High-Vis for the test.

Motorcycling is in decline, when I go to bike meets, i'm 39 and I am practically the youngest person there.
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think the test for bikes is 'hard'.
I do think the CBT is a waste of petrol as it allows a lot of skinny little bad-mastards to create Mayonnaise on our roads because they never really swallowed the pill about road craft.
It only asks that you have a basic control of the machine and a usable knowledge of road manners/rules.
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PostPosted: 23:55 - 25 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It has been turning in the road using forward and reverse gear as long as I can remember.

I wonder if the change to the distance for the sight test is due to the numberplate changes a while ago. The newer font for number plates is slightly smaller, so this might be to keep the sight test referring to about the same level of actual eyesight.

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PostPosted: 06:28 - 26 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading a number plate a x feet should have been dropped years ago and a proper eye test set up.

Turning in the road ????

Always have been able to do it in as many as you want, so long as you don't hit the kerbs.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 26 Jan 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mredhead wrote:
So it went to '3 point turn' and back to 'turn in the road'?


It has always been a turn in the road by maneuvering the vehicle to face the other direction using forward and reverse gears.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 26 Jan 2012    Post subject: Re: Car eye test! Reply with quote

kawakid wrote:
mredhead wrote:

Couple this with the compulsory High-vis for motorcycles and it seems the motive for the high-vis has potentially changed?
Mike


I'd heard this for France and ROI but nothing over here. I know you are expected to go in High-Vis for the test.

Motorcycling is in decline, when I go to bike meets, i'm 39 and I am practically the youngest person there.


Not sure motorcycling as a collective is in decline, but with the rise of forums, there's less of a reason for people to go to meets now.

I've done meets and stuff in the past, but for the most part I'd rather be riding it than talking about it if I'm out.
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