Bikers with no road sense

[No 6]

Afternoon All,

After this mornings events it got me wondering, Have many others on here witnessed shit riding while in their cars, or even hit a biker?Just for a change, a few words about an accident I avoided this morning with a biker while in my car. So to the plonker on the Gixxer 1000 this morning about half past 10 in Dorking you are lucky I drive like I ride, leave adequate distances, and always change lanes with a lifesaver.

But to that biker............The next time you decide to ride on a wet dual carriage way, ignore safe distance, mirror checks and lifesavers, indicate last minute and cut into the nearside lane 20 feet off a roundabout , 10 feet in front of a 80 year old woman in a honda Jazz, then cut across the lane to the apex of the roundabout a bonnet length in front of me, then move back to the nearside again, then indicate right and 2 seconds later, cut across 2 lanes into the right only lane 10 feet in front of me and causing me to lock up.....DON'T.

It didn't look cool at 35mph and your road craft is shit. Please buy a cruiser, bolt some caravan mirrors to it, and take your bike out for further training!!! As a biker, the last thing I would ever want to do is end up hitting one in my car and being judged as "that cager!", you really did do your best to try and make that happen this morning, I hope you got home safely.

Rant over!
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[salty21]

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[junglejim]

Yes I do get weary of these anti car driver posts you read on forums and in MCN.
It's like every car driver is a rider killer deep down.
Well if I go out on my bike on a nice Sunday, I might not even witness one case of bad driving, but guaranteed I'm going to see at least half a dozen idiots riding with no thought for anyone else.
As a group, it's about time we dispensed with this attitude of, we're the best and all car drivers are myopic morons.
We need to start accepting the fact that there are an awful lot of stupid senseless riders out there who are spoiling it for the rest of us.

[angryjonny]

[Rogerborg]

[pits]

You mean like the guy on the old Hond Pan European who almost clipped my mate last year on his GSXR 750, then sat on my rear wheel to the right meaning I couldn't actually move right, then decided that he would overtake almost taking the wing mirror off the car in front of me and making it swerve into the side of the road, and then forced the Audi that I saw and my mate saw into the bushes as he pulled out for a head on to overtake one car.

Yes there are shit riders, if I caught up with him I would have told him his riding was poor, and if the two bikes infront of you haven't overtaken on a straight there is probably a reason for it, like oncoming traffic, (he caught us up due to 30mph driver and no safe overtaking spots)


The thing is, there are less shit bikers out there than there are car drivers, you take your life in your hands every time you walk out the the house, get in the car etc, but on a bike you take it more so, you have less of a chance if you hit something, just not worth the risk for most who like living, natural selection will catch up with the morons on the roads one day

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[nowhere.elysium]

[No 6]

Wait... You're an 80 year old woman with a Honda Jazz?[/quote]

No, only on a Saturday, this was a Sunday.

Nowhere-elysium - To the OP - don't forget that when you're on a bike, you're more immersed in what you're doing than when you're in the car. I'm not condoning crap riding, but he (the offending rider) is likely to be more on the ball than many car drivers are.

Hmmm, when I'm riding I tend to be more aware of my surroundings and positioning than what I'm doing? I guess that's what your getting at, which was my point. This guy was riding at 25 - 35mph, it was nothing hoony in nature, poor obs and no sense. I would imagine he drives his car in the same manner.

There are less bikes than cars on the road so your bound to see more bad drivers than riders, but accidents still happen both sides of the fence. Most riders are fully subscribed members of the self preservation society, and ride defensively to an extent. I've seen riders pushing bikes and their limits at times, we all do it, I guess this was the first time I has actually seen a rider with all the gear and no idea in terms of utter basics. It really was hard work on three occasions not to hit this guy.

To get a car licence is almost a right of passage in growing up, all parents did it, they never tell their kids, "We did it, but it's too dangerous, you'll kill yourself." etc. To get a bike license is usually a personal choice for the majority regardless of intent. Most car drivers aren't "interested" in driving the car they get for pleasure, bike riders do. It's one of the biggest pulls to many, and with this specific interest in bikes I expected that most might want to master riding to get the most fulfillment. I don't mean master in terms of Rossi etc, just enough to feel that they understand the bike and what they are doing without focusing so much on the bike itself, they become a liability to others.

Oh and could someone tell me, or point me in the direction of how to multi quote threads? Ta
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[StevRS]

Problem is, most road users of all varieties are too unskilled to tell the difference either way...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
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[Fifteen15]

Being a new rider, I always get nervous when another bike comes up behind me, because I know they'll probably be judging my riding. As for other bikers/cagers, I still can't believe how many people ignore the 2 second rule. When I'm in my mates car, I always finding myself tensing up because he goes by the 0.5 second rule, and everytime the car in front brakes, I think we're going into the back of it.
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[angryjonny]

The problem these days is that if you leave a 2 second gap, 3 people will stick their cars in it.

[DrDonnyBrago]

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[Rogerborg]

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[Mikey3]

Thing is those type of riders are the first to moan when bikers get a bad name, and they're generally the cause of it.
It's reasons like this that cause the stupid laws against bikers, and the complacent attitude.
Annoys me, especially considering my bike group are attempting to promote biking and trying to show people bikers' aren't as bad as people make them out to be. The mentioned attitude only wastes all our efforts, especially considering we're trying to make stuff happen which will benefit ALL bikers (including the 'dick 'eds). Talk about shoving it back in your face!
good rant
Mike
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[WannaBeDude]

SOunds to me like the rider got to the front of the que in one peice, good work rider
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