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Would you buy a used helmet?
No! Only a moron buys a second hand helmet!
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Maybe from a friend but not from a stranger.
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Yes. I'd buy one if it looks okay.
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Helmets are for sissies.
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Pie-Roe
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've worn and crashed in several second hand helmets that fitted well. My heads ok.

I got one helmet off a guy in a bike shop once who dropped it from thigh height and immediately bought a new one. Turned out he'd only had it for about 3 weeks (weekend blaster) so it'd probably only seen 8 hours use max. Got it for £50, worth about 400
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I should add that I've been in quite a lot of crashes with new and second hand helmets.

The one that did do damage (nasty concussion, head aches for around a year after if I did any serious exercise) was with a new helmet that wasn't a perfect fit, but was the best fit I could afford at the time.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
I should add that I've been in quite a lot of crashes with new and second hand helmets.

The one that did do damage (nasty concussion, head aches for around a year after if I did any serious exercise) was with a new helmet that wasn't a perfect fit, but was the best fit I could afford at the time.


was the helmet too loose or too tight?
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PostPosted: 17:17 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too loose. Not sure you'd have so much of a problem when crashing with 'too tight' - you'd just get head aches etc, which'd probably precipitate the crash Smile.
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PostPosted: 20:59 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
As per above. Have crashed in various second hand helmets and been fine in that regards, at least.


Dont take this the wrong way but, you are a female rider are'nt you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8kfRABAIr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0oRXzNrr9g
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PostPosted: 21:10 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheBikerStig wrote:

Dont take this the wrong way but, you are a female rider are'nt you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8kfRABAIr4

Think I can cover a fair few of those Smile - gone over the front and back, plenty of low sides etc, impacts with other riders etc (when racing.)

In my experience, most women don't do quite such twatish things in my experience Wink.
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i thought helmets only lasted for about 3 years?

because all the stuff inside goes off and goes hard or something?
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mossi123uk wrote:
i thought helmets only lasted for about 3 years?

because all the stuff inside goes off and goes hard or something?


Apparently they have a 5 year lifespan, the effects of body heat, hairspray, sweat and most especially sunlight being cited as a cause of deterioration. What they don't say is whether there is a big difference between exposing your helmet to the ravages of the heat of the California sun and wearing it somewhere less sunny like Cardiff or Glasgow. I think they last longer than 5 years.
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good well maintained helmet should dependant on use, last about 5 years, however this rule is dependant on a number of factors.  If you are a high mileage user, or you perspire a lot, then you may need to consider changing it more regularly, say every 2 – 3 years as the degradation of the liner will be accelerated.

I used to be a 100,000 mile a year rider and would go through at least 4 helmets a year. Now my helmets last comfortably for 3 - 4 years as my mileage has dropped considerably, so as mentioned, if you sweat a lot, wear hairspray or gell, take your helmet on and off a lot, then you may need to consider replacing more regularly than some others.

UV and external heat and weather has no bearing on the shell.

Until about 10 years ago it was reckoned that a polycarbonate or thermoplastic shell had a life span of about 18 months to two years, but the BSI placed a number of these shells on the roof of their building 24/7 and then regularly inspected and tested them over a 5 year period.

They found that there was no significant degredation in the shell, but the liner had disintegrated on all of them.

It is not the shell you have to worry about, it is the interior styrofoam liner, the strap fixings and the strap itself that causes the biggest problem.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 03 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have done before, nothing to worry about because I never crash. Wink
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PostPosted: 03:02 - 04 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anything is better than nothing if you are going to keep to the law and wear an helmet then I don't mind if it is second hand. To be honest my first helmet was second hand and I'm glad it wasn't new.

Within the first few weeks of owning it I'd gravel rash it, dropped it and crashed in it at low speeds. If that was a new helmet or if I was an over safety minded then I'd of bankrupted my budget easier.
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PostPosted: 09:15 - 04 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why? You can buy a 5 star rated helmet brand new for 60/70 quid?

Unless of course you want a poser label Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 10:37 - 04 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeanIt wrote:
Why? You can buy a 5 star rated helmet brand new for 60/70 quid?
Because a 5 star rated helmet that fits badly will be significantly worse than a battered and multiple times crashed in helmet in my experience.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 04 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

LeanIt wrote:
Why? You can buy a 5 star rated helmet brand new for 60/70 quid?

Unless of course you want a poser label Rolling Eyes


I've never seen them that cheap, if I go into any motorcycle dealer's the full-face helmets start around £75 for no-frills lids - and tbh they do look a bit tacky and I do want something that looks nice. Good comfortable helmets always seem to start around the £100 - £150 mark. The Suomy I bought was worn only once or twice and it cost me a grand total of £28.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 04 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure how many 'star' it was, but I did find a £60 lid when I was at cadwell last year and forgot mine (wasn't sure if I was going to ride or not anyway.)

They had cheaper, but none were a good fit, while this was pretty good.
Not as good as a Shoei, but I wasn't really expecting to crash.
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PostPosted: 18:39 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Re: Would you buy a second hand motorcycle helmet? Reply with quote

ninja_butler wrote:
Yes? No? Maybe? There are some dodgy sellers on Ebay who will sell anything to anyone if they can make money out of it but is it over-cautious to say NEVER buy second hand or is it a golden rule never to be broken?

I just bought a Suomy helmet on Ebay for £20 + £7 p&p that would IIRC have cost me around £130 if I'd bought it new, and as far as I can see it's hardly been used at all; no marks on the shell and just the tiniest scratch on the side of the visor. I think the liner is removable so I'll take it out and have a good look inside.

https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$(KGrHqZ,!q!E8WZNZl90BPHGM8FmUg~~60_12.JPG


Definitely! You know you're getting a comfy lid when the inside is full of sweat stains. Guys don't part with their best lids until they stink.

Wearing another guy's well-worn lid is pretty cool, though. Because it's broken in, it'll go on easily. Initially, the padding will feel dry. Over fifteen minutes, as you sweat in it, the stink will build up. The lid will start to feel like you've been in it for 10,000 miles. The padding will become slimy as your own sweat and breath activate the years of funk that have built up. In a way, you'll want to pull it off. If you're serious about wearing used, you'll stay in.

After an hour, you will acclimate to the stink. You'll only smell it, again, if you adjust the position of the lid on your head. That's because doing so squeezes the concentrated sweat that's gotten wet and warm. Finally, when you pull the lid off, your face and hair will be coated in the other guy's stink. It takes between twenty minutes and a couple of hours for that to go away.

After a few months, you won't notice any of this: the stink and slime. It'll still be there; it'll just be normal.
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

I left my helmet on the floor in the hall my dog cocked his leg and pissed over it Evil or Very Mad
Its now for sale if anyone wants it Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 29 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

People probably still cared 6 years ago...
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PostPosted: 05:55 - 30 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

almostthere wrote:
I left my helmet on the floor in the hall my dog cocked his leg and pissed over it Evil or Very Mad
Its now for sale if anyone wants it Thumbs Up
I have never worn a dog piss lid, but I have been in a couple of stinkers that smelled like a horse stable. They looked great on the outside (they always do) and were very sleazy but very comfortable on the inside (as they always are). After enough slimy sweat and snot and spit build up in a guy's helmet, it transforms into a living thing. The relationship between the rider and the helmet becomes symbiotic. The lid eats the rider's sweat. In return, the rider gets a smelly, warm, wet, safe, comfortable place into which to slip his head. Only the rider knows the intimate details of the helmet. When you get in another guy's hot, wet, steaming stink, you get to know him very well, indirectly. It's kind of cool. At first, getting in another guy's dirty lid is pretty mellow. It's dry. The smell is subdued.

It's best to get to know your symbiotic stinker as quickly as possible, however. So, get in it, and close all the vents and the visor. Buckle the chin strap. Breathe normally for about ten minutes. The helmet will heat up and become wet. It will get slimy as your sweat and breath mix with what's already under the lid. As long as you keep still during the ten-minute introduction, it shouldn't get too intense. After another forty-five minutes, the cooties in the padding will come completely to life, just like yeast in a bread dough. They will start eating your sweat, and the stink will increase by orders of magnitude. Then, it's a matter of acclimating. It's best to wear the stinker on a three-hour ride before pulling it off. Don't get out of it too soon, or you may never get back in. Don't open any vents or the visor -- not even to scratch your nose. Just breathe and sweat and cough and sneeze in there, just like the other guy did for thousands of hours while encased in this thing before the amazing time when you got the lucky chance to be in his lid. Whichever way you move your head, the stink will follow you. It's gonna get really hot and wet. You're gonna want to open the visor so bad, but don't. Stay in it. Be one with it. After the long ride, the smell will be really intense, but you'll be sort-of used to it. You won't notice it until you pull out.

It really is amazing getting in a well-worn lid. It is awesome to wear another guy's stink. I keep at least four used lids. My two favorite are an Arai Quantum/e which has a very earthy stink. It fits so perfectly. The more sweat I feed it, the more it rewards me with the intense smell of the other guy. My other favorite, an Icon Alliance, smells like really dirty hair. The padding is greasy. Once pristine white, the interior is now charcoal grey with gentle tones of yellow and brown. I seriously doubt that the other guy who was in the Icon before me ever washed his hair with soap. For him, sweating under the lid made him clean enough.

All dirty helmets share a common stink that I can't describe except to say that its sharp. Their smelly overtones are what make them unique: gym; spicy; sweet; earthy; and, greasy.

How do you know if your dirty lid fits? Sleep in it for an entire night. If after at least eight hours actually sleeping in a scummy helmet (or a new one if you prefer) you feel no painful hot spots, then you've found the perfect little stinker for yourself to wear. Another benefit of the sleep test is that you'll fully acclimate to the stink. Only after pulling out of the lid and staying out for several hours will you again notice any smell under the lid. I personally like the smell of a dirty lid, however.

Right now, there's a hot white Quantum/e up for grabs on eBay. It has some really nice sweat stains in the forehead padding.
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 30 Jun 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

almostthere wrote:
I left my helmet on the floor in the hall my dog cocked his leg and pissed over it Evil or Very Mad
Its now for sale if anyone wants it Thumbs Up
The Arai XD3 is hotter inside than outside. Mine is black. The dude who rode in it sweated hard. He rode with the visor closed at low speed on rough terrain. So, the lid would steam up all the time. He never washed the pads. I feel so awesome getting in his dirt bike stink.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 01 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

The dude who's selling his Quantum/e is also selling a Quantum/s. Each is only about $60, including shipping. The Quantum/s has some super hot sweat stains because it's got less ventillation. The Quantum/s is the sweatier sibling to the Quantum/e. Both lids look like fun to get in and sweat in.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lesson here is, only buy 2nd hand from cold places.
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 02 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

your average off road school, they provide the bike and the gear...all the kit's been crashed in multiple times....

so, yeah, I bough entire set of MX gear off mate who tried green laning and didn't like it
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 04 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hondaondabrain wrote:
Lesson here is, only buy 2nd hand from cold places.
No. Hotter is better. Sweat makes a helmet fit better. I just bought a Quantum/s. These lids have almost no vents, allowing them to stay warm and wet. My new Quantum/s will be comfortable right out of the box. No breakin time required. If it's truly well-worn, I should be able to smell it before putting it on. I can't wait to get in it.

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PostPosted: 16:36 - 04 Jul 2018    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hondaondabrain wrote:
Lesson here is, only buy 2nd hand from cold places.
The more a lid stinks, the more comfortable it is.

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