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Also, if you don't mind using the command line/terminal:
https://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html
Since my internet has been being too slow to stream iPlayer episodes, and the downloads stopped working on iPlayer the other day, I've been using it to download tv episodes.
To use it to download top gear I would do something like below:
- open a command line in the "get_iplayer" directory
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| Code: | | get_iplayer "top gear" |
- find the (3 digit) number to the left of the programme title
- - we'll pretend that my top gear episode is 123
- run:
Then it downloads and converts it for you - even adds the thumbnails to videos
Found it to be a nice handy tool  ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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^ This.
I've been an ardent user of the original, and now resurrected (by a different project team) get_iplayer for a couple years now. Very nearly filled an external hard disk with downloads now in fact, just in time for the prices of replacements to skyrocket.
Captures the original audio or video stream 1:1 and makes a nice .mp4/.3gp video, or .aac/.mp3/.wma audio file out of it for you depending on the settings.
As I work in a job that sometimes requires providing educational programs and other such media to tutors for use in lectures, it's a godsend, and best of all in that capacity it's legal because we're licensed for making recordings for educational purposes. This way there's no pratting about with recordable DVDs (horrible fragile things, and difficult to do anything with the footage except make a 1:1 copy unless you want to spend ages with it), VHS (oh god) or PVRs (and then trying to copy the stuff out)*. Just copy the thing to a memory stick and hand it over, and if they want to cut it down to use a short clip in a powerpoint there's a 101 programs that can do it automagically.
Now, J.M., and other potential users, one thing you need to be made aware of super duper quick smart, and I wish I had known about from the start:
GET IPLAYER HAS A GUI.
There's a "web interface" bundled with it, and it may not be immediately apparent what this is, but it is in fact a mini program that launches your web browser and is controlled by it. Using that you can update the "cache" (list of currently downloadable programs), search for them by channel, name, age, etc and set up single or series recordings, recording quality, destination folder etc with just a few key-taps and mouse clicks.
It makes the thing SO much quicker and easier to use. There's still the odd occasion where I have to use the command line for stuff (e.g. forcing through a download from R4 extra, because I am a wuss and so have a rather out-of-date copy because I fear breaking it if I get the complicated update procedure wrong), which is a bit of a pain - slow and laborious - but not anywhere near as bad as it actually sounds once you have the options list to hand.
But mostly, if I have a pile of things to nab for the week, I can hop on to it on a monday night (rarely anything worth bothering with is lost at the change-over), spend a half hour clicking around all the tv and radio channels with a beer and one of the digital programmes from the previous week** playing in the background, and leave the automatic scheduler*** to kick in at midnight and download them during my ISP's quota-free period. Doing another quickie on saturday if there's anything i actually want from the previous monday eve.
Try it. You'll love it.
* The alternative nowadays may be one of those fancy TVs that can record programmes onto a plugged-in memory stick, but neither I nor anyone I know has one, so I have no idea if they're any cop. In any case, they can still only record one, maybe two programmes at a time, and wouldn't you just know it that all the good things come in quartets. The somehow still resident older guy half-sharing my post here literally has a bank of DVD and VHS recorders in the office for copying the things he's recorded off-air, and I presume a similar one at home with an array of digiboxes attached in order to do the initial recordings. I've tried showing him this app and how much easier it makes things, but it doesn't seem to sink in. That or it's the fear of redundancy / free time that comes along with, much like it hit my mum at retirement... Instead of working she now spends her days doing as many different people's washing and ironing as she can gather... for free...
** I literally just bought my first DAB radio yesterday, £25 from Aldi, which I still think is a bit dear, and I just don't like the idea in the first place (MP2 is a format that should have been put in a box and fired into the sun as soon as Dolby Digital was available, not used as the basis for a "next gen" broadcast system that might last another 50+ years). But the receiver's broken on my trusty old FM/tape/CD boombox, so I need *something*...
*** This is simply the windows task scheduler that points at a .bat file in the get_iplayer directory, with instructions to launch it at 00:01 and kill it at 07:59, so I can slurp those sweet gigabytes without any worry about my bill. Usually it doesn't need the whole run time, but if there's stragglers I catch them tuesday afternoon and start the process manually (I do get 10Gb "free"). The batch file basically runs the standard GiP "PVR" process about twenty times in a row, because very occasionally something won't successfully download first time and either needs restarting or resuming once everything else has had a turn. |
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| J.M. wrote: | | tahrey wrote: | lots and lots of stuff |
Thanks for that! Never realised about the web interface, I was even contemplating converting the script to Java so I could write my own interface - now I don't have to  |
No worries. I was using it for probably a year before I figured it out. The program's roots in Linux are appallingly plain thanks to this sort of thing (that and the GiP forumers' general deeply hostile attitude towards curious newbies).
The one thing that it doesn't do - or at least mine doesn't - is tell you how old a programme is and/or how long you have left to get it. If you have a number of things you want to queue up e.g. for overnight download that can lead to you missing some as your download doesn't start until after they've been deleted off the server.
The method I've evolved to use in order to deal with that, if it's been almost a week (or more than) since I last used it is to load up the BBC TV and Radio schedule pages, do "copy link" then paste the result into notepad for each one I'm interested in (NB R5L, World Service, CBBC and BBC HD are tricky and need a different approach) - a different file for TV and Radio. Run a quick find-replace:
find: "https://www.bbc.co.uk/xxxx/programmes/"
replace: "call get_iplayer --pvrqueue --type xxxx --output yyyy --mode flashzzzz --pid="
where xxxx = tv or radio, yyyy = your preferred download directory, zzzz = your preferred quality level (omit these two bits if you have it pre-set). If wanting to record things at different qualities e.g. a speech programme in low and a music one in high, I paste the addresses in to the file in different sections with blank lines between, find-replace with the most common one, and quickly select-retype the others.
(additionally, if you've somehow got .html extensions on the end of every line, just do Find ".html", Replace "" --- as in blank. Zaps them nicely at a rate of about 20 per second )
Save that/those as (a) whatever.bat('s) (filetype: "any", not "text", otherwise it'll forcibly save it as whatever.bat.txt) in the actual get_iplayer program directory, run it/them (go get a drink if you're queueing a LOT of stuff, as it chunks through the list quite slowly), then fire off the usual get_iplayer --pvr command. Once all that's done, queue everything else using the web interface. Be sure to turn on "hide recorded programmes" when you do
Obligatory super-obvious legal boilerplate: This is not piracy. So long as you're a UK resident with a valid current TV license, and don't then sell the recording or share it with others outside of the license agreement (showing it to people who don't have a license whether UK based or foreign, showing it to large groups without an educational license, etc) it's the same as recording something to VHS tape.
And you wouldn't go breaking the BBC license terms, now, would you? I trust you not to do that. It's just that you'd previously have taped these programmes in order to catch up on them later, and no-one uses tape any more.
Torrenting the entire set of Doctor Who reboot series off of bittorrent when you live in the USA, that's piracy 
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Can't seem to get downloads working from the in-built GUI.
My laptop already has Apache running which takes the default port 80 when I try to navigate to localhost. So to get on to it I have to do: https://localhost:1935/
Which does load it. I can browse through all of the programs I have (even though I moved & renamed them ) but when trying to download something new the download just doesn't ever seem to start. Doing it through the command line always works though It creates the initial FLV file but it just sits at 0kb as the download never starts.
I don't mind using the command line though. I've got to get used to that, planning the big switch to Linux soon.  ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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Huh... I can't help with that then, I'm afraid. Something may be broken internally. Like I said before, I'm scared of upgrading mine because it's a bit complex and I'd probably just stuff it. I'm only going to go that far when something actually stops working because the BBC have borked it on purpose and a new version is required to work-around the issue!
And good luck with the whole linux thing, I tried a couple times before and I just couldn't get with it. Microsoft might be the evil corporate empire, but a lot of how Linux is (partly to dodge MS copyrights/patents) just works in such back-asswards ways compared to anything I've ever done, for no good reason, and with such terrible documentation/user community, that I just can't get my head around it.
Jeezus, I don't even want to revisit how long it took me to find out that the way you burn discs on Ubuntu (and most other linuces?) is by running "DD" from the command line. Er, sorry... that's "dd", lower case. Not "cd", that's for directory navigation.
Windows? You drag a bunch of files onto the DVD drive icon, put in a blank disk, then open the drive and click the "burn" button. Or your computer comes bundled with a writing utility.
Also it does evil things with filenames, partly because of the aforementioned case-sensitivity, and allowing all kinds of crap to be a valid filename characters, and so on and so forth. I briefly took part in the geocities backup project. It didn't go well, as I kept losing masses of files when copying everything off my workplace linux virtual machine onto a FAT32 or NTFS transfer drive, and there were literally tens of thousands of directories that would have to be checked or fixed... and it didn't even warn me about the losses and overwrites. Because Linux is a bastard child that should remain hidden behind as thick a layer of GUI (e.g. Android) as possible.
No, despite my more successful dalliance with MSDOS in the mid 90s, and greenscreen unix terminals at uni in the early noughties (both out of necessity more than anything), me & command lines don't get on.
I don't mind using it for the odd thing with e.g. get_iplayer (the reason for using the GUI is more one of speed than anything else - I can scroll & click down a 200-item list of programmes to get the 10 I want far faster than I can look through one screenprinted to the CLI and then type them in by hand, and it's just as precise), or the windows recovery console, but other than that... why? Why bother? My first computer, an Atari ST, was made in 1985, and THAT already had a half decent GUI. The closest you ever got to a CLI was entering options into a "takes parameters" program, and those were quite rare because except for those which needed as much memory as possible (and so disabled the GUI whilst running), it was basically an admission that the programmer was too lazy to add a few onscreen text/check/combo boxes or radio buttons. Every other single thing on that system either booted directly into it's own interface at power-on, or worked via the fully graphical ROM based windowing system. 1985. 27 years ago. 8mhz. 512kbytes of memory. 32kbytes of VRAM. 720k disk. OS that fits within 192k of permanent storage. People regularly throw away computers that are 1000x more capable than that in every regard. We have touch sensors and motion controls, mice with a button or swipey thing for every digit on your hand. Why the hell do we still prat about with commandlines?
I recently got my first real taste of Amiga-ing (outside of feeding game disk images into an emulator) and I really can't believe that it's partly CLI based system survived into the 90s. I haven't yet found any reason to use it. Everything that you need to accomplish can be done quite easily via Workbench. Apparently it's useful for some kind of scripting thing? But... it's a multitasking system, can't you just run the script utility in a window and let it plunk through it's list of jobs without having to load it through an interface that belongs in the 70s?
arugh.
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Seems to be working now - just takes ages to actually start a download whereas the command line starts very quickly
I've tried to use Linux a few times now. I've never been able to fully move away because I was tied in with Adobe Flash (and no creative suite for Linux). Now that HTML5 is getting more widely supported I can hopefully move away from Flash and do it all completely in Linux.
Main reasons for switching are because I loathe and detest what I've understood Windows 8 to be - and I've always been supportive of Windows up until now (yes, even the buggy ones!)
Linux is also used widely throughout the job area I want to go in to, and also used in the University that I want to go to (they dual-boot on one floor, the other floors are all Linux). Some of the jobs I want to apply for post-grad even say they would like Linux experience
I'm hopefully getting a new laptop for my birthday (but I'll be mostly paying for it ): 2.2ghz i7 with 8gb ram, a dedicated gpu with 2gb memory, blu-ray, 1tb hdd, 2x usb3 (the rest usb2), 17.2" screen. It's going to feel like a rocket compared to the laptop I've got now.
The plan of action is to leave my legitimate Windows 7 pro on this laptop and then nuke the HDD on the other one in favour of linux. With the hope that I'll be drawn towards using the new one (because it's new!) and the old one still has windows for "if I ever need it".
Vee, I've downloaded it for you. Internet is slower than a sleeping snail around here though, so I'll P.M. you an upload link once it's been uploaded for you. ____________________ 2004 R1 & 2018 XSR900 |
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