Taking tests on a mate's bike

[Kamikaze Bob]

I'm about to start my DAS, but money is really tight. Having my first go on the big bike on Saturday, and given I've ridden my mate's a couple of times, I know how to handle it - it's the same bike the school uses.

However, given my financial situation, if I got short-term insurance on my mate's ER-6f, would I be able to take my tests on that, legally? (Assuming the insurance isn't a fortune, of course.)

This is nothing against the riding school, still plan to train with them, but the tests cost a bit, and paying for bike hire on top would mean waiting quite a while until I can save up the dough.
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2001 Honda VFR800fi

[Kingstondavo]

[Kamikaze Bob]

Oh yeah, realise that, would have to book the tests for when he was off work too.
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2001 Honda VFR800fi

[Rogerborg]

Yup, you're fine, insurance and L plates are all that you need. You don't need a hi-vis on while doing the test (only while under instruction), but the examiner might not know that so I'd wear one anyway.
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[Kamikaze Bob]

That's cool. I can "borrow" a high-viz from work. Hoping I can get the necessary skills down quick next week, possibly won't need too many lessons to get the A on my license.

Now to pitch the idea to my mate...
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2001 Honda VFR800fi

[thomp1983]

you don't require insurance for the mod1, it's done in a locked, off road compound so is private land, i did my mod 1 on my zxr and the instructor didn't ask to see any documents regarding the legality of the bike, if it looks the part for a 10 minute test there not likely to bother checking paperwork

chris

[Llama-Farmer]

Can see for Mod1 you won't need it, obviously being off the public road. Would it need to be taxed or MOT'd though? Obviously nearly everyone will ride there on public roads, so will have all three anyway, but just curious.


And not in any way suggesting for someone to take the test on an uninsured bike, but would they actually check there is valid insurance before the Mod2, or would they just assume it was?

I'm guessing if its a training centre/instructors bike (or car, for the driving test) then the insurance is always going to be fine and not worth checking, but for a private vehicle do they check with the MIB or ask to see a certificate?

[Taught2BCauti...]

You need to compare the cost of short-term insurance against what the school would charge you for a couple of hour's hire.

If you were to hire a school bike for Mod1, you could make your own there and meet the instructor and use his bike for the Mod1. For Mod2, you could make your way to the school and have a 1 hour session before making your way to the test centre - and I think you would make a better impression turning up on a school bike.

If your mate has a full licence, he could take you on the back for both - but make sure all your paperwork is in order - and the bike is in a condition that would pass an MOT test!

You don't want to lose your fee for the Mod2 because the examiner finds your mate's bike isn't roadworthy!
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[J.M.]

[Kamikaze Bob]

Did a bit of searching last night on prices for 1-day insurance. Came through at £18.22, versus £85 for 2 hours on a school bike. No contest if money is tight and my mate agrees to it, but still to have a few lessons first anyways. Thanks for the advice guys.
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2001 Honda VFR800fi

[Dilyan]

Wait .. you can do the tests on a 600cc? My mate already has a CBR600, but only CBT. If I take it to the test centre can he actually do MOD1 and eventually MOD2 on that?
It would save him a small fortune I think.
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Current: 2007 VFR800; Ex: 2001 YZF600R Thundercat
Škoda Octavia (yes, a taxi driver)

[Rogerborg]

Sure he can. Why wouldn't he be able to? There's nothing magical about training school bikes or insurance, or about DAS for that matter.

Proof of insurance isn't listed as a required document, so they'd be on a sticky wicket trying to refuse you permission to sit the test.

Check this out though about vehicles: [must] have no engine warning lights showing. Lolwut? They just can't resist the urge to keep making up new rules.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike

[Teflon-Mike]

Pretty sure that while there's no explicit statement demanding you show proof of insurance, or even MOT on bike that its applicable; it IS in the booking conditions as a 'provision' & you MAY be asked to provide proof, and they MAY refuse to test if they aren't satisfied the bike's totally legit.

[RIDINGforKICK...]

Hey Roger...



Did you notice this

"If your motorcycle doesn't meet the rules

If your motorcycle doesn't meet the rules:

your test will be cancelled
you may lose your fee

Automatic or semi-automatic transmission

If you pass your test on a motorcycle with automatic or semi-automatic transmission:

it will be recorded on your licence
your full licence rights will be limited to motorcycles in that category"

https://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/PracticalTest/DG_178483

[Rogerborg]

Don't really get what you're saying?

My point is that the more that they try to set themselves up as arbiters of what's roadworthy and safe (c.f. their list of approved clothing), the more liable they'll make themselves when things go wrong anyway and candidates bin it and get mashed up.

Silly clipboard nazis, flexing their tiny bit of power, is all it is.
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Biking is 1/20th as dangerous as horse riding.
GONE: HN125-8, LF-250B, GPz 305, GPZ 500S, Burgman 400 // RIDING: F650GS (800 twin), Royal Enfield Bullet Electra 500 AVL, Ninja 250R because racebike