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| Ben-B wrote: | I always wondered this, and whether you could use a motorbike helmet for a (car) track day and vice versa.
Aside from HANS I wasn't aware of any obvious difference, but I didn't look into it at all |
Most people who do car track days for fun use standard bike helmets, they're the cheapest and easiest to buy.
The focus with F1 helmets, apart from protection, is weight saving, which is pretty important when you're pulling 5Gs; exotic materials have been a major improvement in this area, in the old days of plain GRP, it wasn't unheard of for drivers to modify (read take an angle grinder to) helmets to shave a few grams off, which does tend to compromise safety somewhat.
Apertures seem to be getting bigger now, I'm guessing because they have less head movement, so peripheral vision has become an issue.
They did used to be like looking through a letterbox and the ultimate incarnation of the smallest aperture/highest level of protection was probably this:
https://img838.imageshack.us/img838/6183/bellhelmet.jpg
They are also fitted with fire retardent linings as standard and F1 helmets are usually personally fitted, which means the cost can be quite scary; it was rumoured that Michael Schumacher's original Schuberth cost somewhere North of $20,000, although you can get them over the counter for a lot less now. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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To be fair though, the Yanks are particularly paranoid about safety.
Any good quality bike helmet will be approved for UK car racing and you have to get quite a long way up the chain before flame retardent linings become mandatory.
You do see a lot very expensive helmets at fairly low level motorsport, but I suspect that's more to do with racing drivers generally being flash gits, rather than any need to obey the rules. ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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| Ben-B wrote: |
Not the "buy the best you can afford" rule of thumb then?
I do know they like to thing they're flash, but if I was competing in competitive racing I'd be purchasing the best safety gear I could (as far as is reasonably practical) before I started. |
Racing gear is the same as bike gear, above a certain point it's all doing the same job, the differences are in cost and style.
Race suits have to meet certain requirements, so do fully approved (ie FIA standard) helmets and things like fire retardent materials are bought in from outside companies; my race suit complies with fire regulations up to the level I need it to, I could've spent three or four times as much, but I wouldn't get any better protection and it was still made to my specifications.
Similarly, you could buy a £300 helmet with a fire retardent lining and it will do the same job as a £600 Arai/Bell/Sparco, because it has to.
There could be an argument to do with having a particular brand fitting better than another (which is why I wear what I wear) but you know when someone is buying style and flashness, when you see a guy walking round the paddock in a mega bucks, unobtainium lid, covered in the latest aerodynamic aids, and he's just stepped out of a tin top  ____________________ Things get better with age; I'm close to being magnificent........
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 14 years, 80 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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