ebay is getting worse - New rules on the way

[rac3r]

Got this from another forum I use

[Jayy]

If that's true, ebay have just pissed all over the people who earn them the most money.

Reminds me of a certain diet company who my mum and sister worked for self employed and were among the top earners in the country. They got stung with a huge tax bill and instead of taking a hit, they passed it on to all their top earners on top discount.

Corporate cock sucking cunts springs to mind.

[pinkyfloyd]

[Rogerborg]

Eh, eBay is online evolution in action, full of predators and prey all trying to do each other over.

That returns policy shouldn't really effect us much over here, since it's essentially implementing the Distance Selling Regulations that already exist in the UK and which the vast majority of sellers don't know about or try to ignore or deny.

I've never, ever bought anything via eBay which complies with the requirement to document the returns policy properly, which essentially means that (if push comes to shove) I get to decide the means of return, which could be "Send your courier to pick it up at my convenience, or don't, but either way, refund now."

The TSR program is a tar baby for sellers. I buy a fair amount of low value stuff, and have no hesitation in giving negatives where appropriate - call me old fashioned, but I still consider feedback to be for the benefit of other buyers, not a tool to blackmail sellers with.

Consequently, I've had email and phone begging, pleading and even (risible) threats of legal action over negative ratings that I've given to TRS accounts. Not the merest fraction of a fuck is ever given, you lie or ship garbage, you get a rating that says so.

Yes, I know, buyers go with the lowest price, and how-oh-how is an honest seller to compete with the crooks and liars without cutting a few corners or spinning a few tales, all the usual excuses. Maybe there are just too many sellers on eBay as it is, and not everybody who wants to can make a living out of it.
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[N cee thirty]

very rarely sell on ebay anymoar anyway
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[Irn-Bru]

This is why I use Gumtree Listed my old pedal bike on there earlier this week, within 20 minutes had a buyer and he picked it up the next day cash in hand. Ebay is still good for buying things mind, but selling, no thanks.
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[Ariel Badger]

No text in photos, does that mean if you sell a book you need to blank out any words on the cover?
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[Hetzer]

I wouldn't sell the steam off my shit on eBay. After those parasitic fucks are done turning you over they then conive with scumbag buyers to turn you over.
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[Irn-Bru]

The scammers certainly came out when I listed my laptop but so far I've had good experiences. Also get people trying to swap you their cat and a fiver for your bike, but you get those tools on ebay as well. If I had to use ebay for some reason what I'd do is hope I found a buyer before the auction ended and just cancel all the bids and end it manually - that way you only pay the listing fees.
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[GhostRider]

You;d think with eBay shoving their cocks up all their users arses a decent alternative would have surfaced by now - does anyone ever use the alternatives currently on offer?

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[Gazz]

Ebay is shit now.



Car Boot Sale FTW!!!!

[st3v3]

"It's for Americans.." - not if it works, they'll have it global within days.

I'd rather quit using ebay than bow to those rules, so if I sell something and the buyer has a power cut meaning he can't pay for 3 days, the TRS he's bought from doesn't get the benefits? Fuck that.

They might just be knocking the final nails in the coffin, will be interesting to watch this unfold - the trouble is, they've monopolised that industry and are a law unto themselves.

I've met the Director of Ebay Motors/Gumtree (in passing, chatted with him on the way to a meeting) and he seemed just like my old boss, a sound guy when he was being himself but the minute there was a quick buck to be made that was the priority, loyalty and customer focus meant nothing.
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[Babba]

I stopped using eBay as a market for my business's nearly 2 yrs ago when the rules & prices really did start to get silly.

I finally closed everything down 3mths ago after having to waste 10+hrs of my life sorting out a colossal cluster fuck due to a fuckwit of a retard buyer who didn't/couldn't read my last ever auction properly.

Looking back, I've made some good money there over the years, & on the basis that 99.9% of people are genuinely honest I've only ever had problems with 'Her Majesty's Royal FUCKING Mail' seemingly the root cause.

But today, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I hope it dies & I hope it dies painfully.

[Im-a-Ridah]

Ebay is already unreasonable if you are a seller selling something other than extremely low value goods from China.

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[rac3r]

The biggest killer is 10% bloody commission they take at the end, for me for example the wholesaler gives roughly 20% off retail so add paypal and eBay fees and that leaves me with f**k all

Hopefully a decent alternative will arrive soon....which will eventually go down the same route too

eBay can be ok for buying stuff though
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[JonB]

I stopped selling there 2 years ago. I use Amazon to sell most stuff which probably makes me less money, but I get less hassle.
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[andys675]

I used to work for a retailer of italian made goods, which are still poorly counterfeited and sold on ebay at one third of the RRP.

We actively sought out every chinese listing on ebay and reported them as counterfeit, ebay did nothing, the feedback these people had was littered with negative saying the items were counterfeit, ebay did nothing, the owner of the parent company complained to ebay, they did nothing, we opened ebay accounts and bought all their goods, and used the opportunity to leave negative feedback without paying for the goods and ebay removed the feedback!

the counterfeiters were also contacting the 2nd, 3rd 4th and 5th etc highest bidders and making second chance offers as they were making a fortune out of the cheaply made counterfeits!
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[Poseidon]

I lost interest in ebay when it stopped being an auction site. I got fed up of typing an item into the search and seeing 1,746 items, of which 43 were auctions, which means I have to pay whatever someone wanted for an item (i.e, a price that makes them a profit) whereas in the old days, ebay was full of people who were happy to get a couple of quid in return for off-loading some clutter onto someone who wanted it.

It's just one big classifieds section now, with loads of knock-off goods and dodgy amateur businesses.

I now go car-booting every weekend, but even car-boot sales aren't what they used to be 10 years ago. I've noticed a huge increase in the number of vans at car-boot sales with the same faces at the stall and the same dodgy knock-off goods or factory seconds and no willingness to haggle... Surely regular traders like these with a proper stock of goods should be at a market rather than a car-boot sale. Mind you, it's still 20times better than ebay as there are still a good few people there who have cleared the loft out and are selling stuff for an extra bit of pocket money. I managed to get 3 decent films, tony hawk's american wasteland (ps2) and a pilsner urquell glass for less than 2 quid for the lot. All the DVDs and the game work brilliantly too.
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[Hetzer]

Pilsner Urquell glasses? I can lay my hands on a very large ongoing quantity of those. Peroni as well.
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[Poseidon]

It's this glass:
https://www.hoptomology.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/PU4.jpg

For 20p it allows me to drink a bottle of my favourite pilsner and reminisce about being in prague.
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[Hetzer]

Ah. The ones I can get are the clear leaded glass with the embossed text and logo, seriously quality kit.
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