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EazyDuz
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: How to get away with drink driving. Reply with quote

Perhaps stupid question, a rage comic made me think of it.
You are driving drunk when a police car pulls you over.
As he gets to your car you pull out a bottle of vodka and down as much as you can, then claim you were sober beforehand, but now you are drunk and have no intention of driving.
This is after turning the engine off and removing the keys.

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PostPosted: 22:00 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You mean the comic posted here earlier today?

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=215865&start=3175
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PostPosted: 22:03 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Shaggy D.A. wrote:
You mean the comic posted here earlier today?

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=215865&start=3175


Yea that, only my friend posted it on facebook 20 minutes ago, weird coincidence...
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is where the plan falls down.....There is an offence called being drunk whilst in charge of a motor vehicle.

If you have just been stopped then the cops have seen you in charge of that vehicle....many a fool has tried jumping out and throwing the keys in the hedge or whatever. It doesn't get you off!

If it was a serious question then No its not possible to get away with drink driving or atleast not in the way you describle and its very difficult in any circumstances so I'd not suggest you try Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 28 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those comics are in a series of troll comics.

Hence the troll face at the end.

Meaning it isn't meant to be taken seriously. Only a fool would take what is written on them as fact.
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also wondered about this after seeing the cartoon common sense would dictate no you cant do that, but the law has to have a logical argument, and I'm not sure what it would be in this case.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
I also wondered about this after seeing the cartoon common sense would dictate no you cant do that, but the law has to have a logical argument, and I'm not sure what it would be in this case.


See the response above mine.
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I guess so, it's a little loose, being "drunk in charge of a vehicle" but I guess it's designed to be that way so you cant do little loophole stuff.
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
Yeah I guess so, it's a little loose, being "drunk in charge of a vehicle" but I guess it's designed to be that way so you cant do little loophole stuff.


It really isn't as loose as it sounds. If the police catch you even sleeping in your car they can do you for it if they wanted to. I was going to wheel my moped back from the pub once at about 3am but the landlord (my mate) said not to because he has known people to get done for it.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not that I would know anything about getting done for drunk driving or anything like that.... but there are ways to get off with drunk driving.

If your life is in immediate danger then yes you are allowed to drive as long as you stop as soon as it is safe to do so, or if you have been involved in an accident or something similar and you are shocked and have a drink to calm yourself down, OK the second one the police can back track (not sure the correct term), but if you say you have drunk X amount and the readings show you have had XX amount then you will be done, but if it shows it was only X amount and there is reasonable cause then you can get away with it.

As for the cartoon, I guess if you tried that then the police would grab the booze off you before you managed to drink too much and if you refused to provide a specimen of breath/blood/urine then it is worse when it goes to court.

I'm sure there is a couple more ways to get away with it but can't remember them at the moment, you can have your ban reduced with a good excuse.... and believe me it had better be a bloody good one, I'd had a heart bypass 3 weeks before, family treating me like shit, lost my job, lost everything, basically life fell apart around me and I still got the obligatory 1 year ban for having 121mg per 100ml of blood when legal limit is 80mg (basically 1 drink too many).

I know I'm probably going to get a bit of stick for this post, but at the end of the day, I wasn't thinking clearly at that point, not a day goes by that I don't regret what I done, it's one mistake I know I'll never make again, and one that I will be paying for, for the next 11 years.
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PostPosted: 01:02 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

A bloke I knew years ago got done for drunk in charge.
He'd gone home pissed up and his wife wasn't happy, he'd asked her what was for tea, apparently she put a sandwich in front of him, when he looked in it he found...............the goldfish!
She chucked him out and he slept in the car for a couple of hours till the coppers woke him up, because he had he keys in his pocket........drunk in charge.
Sadly for him, he used the goldfish story as some sort of mitigation in court, (he was a bit thick).
Next day it was in the local paper, and a couple of days later it was picked up by the tabloids.
We had reporters from the Sun and the Daily Star come to work to try interview the thick get.
He never lived it down, he was known as Billy goldfish from then on.


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PostPosted: 01:38 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I've heard of people being done when sleeping in car drunk.
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PostPosted: 02:08 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

more about the banned side of things, I had a friend in Glasgow that was working on his car while he was banned,the car was on his drive way, the front wheels were off the ground, wheels removed, steering wheel removed, but because the key was in the ignition barrel and he still got arrested because he was in the car.

Also (not sure if it's true or not, I read it online), technically I can't even sit in my car, not allowed to push any cars, have the keys in my possession while near the car (I would need to prove in court that I had no intention of even starting the car), or even push a bike until my ban is up. I had to ask my police friend if I was even allowed to wash the car because what's to stop the police saying they saw me with the keys ready to drive it... I'd have to prove the keys were still in the house.... but then I am just a paranoid person (I was charged with car theft for looking in the window of a car as the police came flying round the corner).
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PostPosted: 02:21 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Artist wrote:


It really isn't as loose as it sounds. If the police catch you even sleeping in your car they can do you for it if they wanted to. I was going to wheel my moped back from the pub once at about 3am but the landlord (my mate) said not to because he has known people to get done for it.


That's what I mean, its a loose law so they dont have to prove you had an intent to drive when drunk.

If the offense was for actually doing something, rather than possibly doing something, it would be a lot harder to prove.

It's a lot easier to legislate against anything that may lead to harm, than to legislate against acts that actually lead to harm.
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PostPosted: 08:33 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heard a better one. You realise that your proably over the limit, take out a sparkplug and pop a nut/bolt or anything sold in and replace the plug. carefully turn the engine till it won't go any further, then call the AA because your bike siezed up. Free lift and bike delivery Cool
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PostPosted: 10:03 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have only ever heard of one person not getting done for drink driving. it was in the paper a while back.

a lad had met with some mates after work for a few drinks in a pub, he stuck to coke cause he was driving but his "mates" slipped a couple of cheeky vodka's in he cokes when they went to the bar for him because they thought he was been boring for not drinking.

he got pulled and found to be over the limit etc..

when he went to court he showed the cctv from the pub showing him drinking coke and also got hims mates to stand up and tell them that they had stitched him up. he got found not guilty and the police were looking at bringing charges against he mates
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The crusade against drink-driving in this country has become a hysteria that now amounts practically to a pogrom of sorts.
It's not that being pissed (reasonably pissed) makes a person a dangerous driver through loss of ability to safely operate a vehicle per se, it's that being pissed induces the average moron to drive beyond his ability, which would still lead him to be dangerous even if stone cold sober.

Basically it's a law passed on the basis of there being too many young twats with cars in the population who need only a few drinks to lose control of their sense and behaviour. Meanwhile the sensible people who don't lose it are perfectly safe and able to get their vehicle from A to B while reasonably pissed because they stick to a safe and sensible speed and pay extra attention.

And anyone who wants to get all hysterical about the above and initiate a pogrom can feel free to kiss my arse. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that I totally agree with Hetzer. Yet again tar everyone with the same brush though ain't it. If one person has half a glass of shandy and weaves over the road... obviously EVERYBODY that drinks half a glass of shandy isn't going to be able to control any vehicle.

As for the whole drink driving thing, a friend of mine got done for it a while back... second offence within 10 years, and by the time they done all their faffin' around he was still 8 times over the limit... and he got a 2 month sentance from it
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im amazed at the amount of people who took this totally seriously and proceeded to type up a sarcastic reply, i guess some people were born without a sense of humor.


Brb drink driving to work lololol
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

it's one of these things that does happen on a daily basis, although it can be a joking matter, it does also have a very serious side. Unfortunately society frowns upon people that have been done for drunk driving because of the mistakes of a few.
Anyone that gets behind the wheel even after a couple of pints is obviously going to crash into a school full of kids, with half a shopping centre already splatted off the front of the car...

I totally agree with the punishment system for drink drivers, but everything should be taken into consideration before sentancing rather than just start at a basic charge then add to it.

I was stopped at 2am on Saturday morning, not another car on the road (well other than the police car), I would have driven about 2 miles in total on quiet roads... OK I got off lightly with a year ban and £200 fine.
Now a friends ex had more to drink than I had, wrapped his car round a bollard, car burst into flames, he fled the scene, he got a years ban and £80 fine.

I have to deal with the aftermath of what I done, I have to tell every employer I go to for the next 10 years or so, I have to take the endless jibes from family and friends, I have to face the fact that I ruined my life, all because of one stupid mistake (which anyone that has read previous posts of mine will hopefully know the full story of why I done it in the first place).
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a camper van that I used to use to go and watch away footy matches in. Used to park up, go on the piss, watch the footy and sleep in the camper afterwards till the next day.

Does anyone know if there is an excuse or exemption for camper vans, I mean they are your living place while you are in them, same as your house?
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 29 Feb 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lorry drivers that are staying away from home get away with sleeping in their cabs... I think. I know of a few lorry drivers that do it, I guess if there is a bed in there then it's fine... although don't quote me on it
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