Were all criminals...........

[divuk83]

https://www.thisisyork.co.uk/york/archive/2004/04/06/york_news_local22ZM.html

What the hell is this David Collins bloke on about? Aparently we are all "lifestyle" criminals! North Yorkshire Police are slowly getting more and more anti-bike. They would save a lot more lives by funding advaced road safety courses etc, or taking VAT of all bike safety kit. Grrrr....

/end rant

Dave

[danish@125]

Agreed. He's really generalising with that accusation..... where is the connection between being a biker, and parking on yellow lines and in disabled bays ! We have bikes, we don't really need to worry about parking in disabled bays as there are so many other places to park !! Besides, cars sit in disabled bays - not bikers

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[hush]

This guy really needs a slap

I'm not against cracking down on law breakers, but this guy seems to be hell bent on law breakers being bikers, with a hint of car drivers to be PC (mind you, he also suggested that the car drivers that brake the law are really bikers!!!)

I can't stand double yellow parked cars, and especially those cars parked near the corner of a junction. Like them I don't but I have been so tempted to become a Traffic Warden just to get the people who park dangerously.

And then there is - Bikers make up 3% of road users, but 1/4 of road deaths... I wonder if they compared the number of motor cycle crash deaths to survivals against the number of car crash deaths to survivals. After all, cars do provide you with just a tad more protection that leathers and a crash helmet...

[GFK]

[Phil.]

It does seem like this bloke has gone abit over board with some of the comments he has made. Thing is though how many lives have been saved by getting pulled over an told to slow down?

[Sparks!]

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I speed daily, does that make me a drug dealer?

My bike has a race can, slightly smaller plate (I think) and I wear a dark visor if weather permits, does that make me a murderer?

The police/government realise there are too many accidents on the road, bikes are clearly the un-safest form of transport obviously, which is jacking up their road death figures, I bet they are just trying to get bikes off the road completely (i.e getting people banned etc) then their precious figures will go down.

Well, they won't... but they will be "less" in number (and higher in percentage) but it's the media that counts, if they can say they saved 10 lives this month (by banning 20 drivers) then that's all they care about.

Everywhere you go though, people seem to perceive bikers as criminals, car drivers on the roads tend to be so dangerous, driving sometimes /on/ the curbs to give you space to pass, expecting you to go haring past at 100mph. Especially the numb nuts that do that in 30mph limits expecting you to go past them still.

And all because they don't understand, driver education should be a priority and the government should remove their heads from their asses and realise bikers are not criminals, they may be involved in lots of accidents but I bet you a majority of them were another car's fault.

It annoys me so much because I seem to always bump into stupid car drivers on the roads that think your going to race past them, I've seen cars HIT the curbs at 30mph + and swerve all over the place for no reason, I especially like deliberately not passing sometimes, that pisses them off


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[hush]

I think it is about time that the DVLA realise that there is a good chance that all drivers would be much better, and sensible if everyone took a CBT and spent a week riding a bike. When you HAVE to look out for everyone else on a bike, you tend to carry on doing it in a car.

Obviously everyone taking a CBT is not practical as many who can drive cars would be unable to ride bikes. But really I think those who can ride a bike, should ride a bike even if just briefly before they get their car.

[danish@125]

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[danish@125]

[Kris]

I use them too, usually have about 12 of the fuckers, all empty. Plus, they're closest to the entrance


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[danish@125]

I would never use them


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[Phil.]

I think anyone who wrongfully uses disabled spaces is immoral and every one of the cars that get a keying off me deserves it!

If you uses someones disabled space you should used their disability while there too. Sure then you'd rarther walk the extra 10 yards.

[Kris]

I only use them if there's loads of empty ones etc But keying cars is immoral and anyone who keys anyone else's property gets a beating
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[ProXimaCore]

At the Tesco's retail park where I stay there's a motorcycle parking bay just across from the disabled parking. Once when I parked there a woman just getting out her car from a disabled space came over and thanked me for not parking in the disabled space as she was used to seeing bikers parking in them. I personally haven't ever used the disabled spaces but have been known to park 2 feet away from the front door on the pavement right at the front entrance to Tesco's. There's tons of room there though and as long as it's quiet and nobody is walking around.
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[Phil.]

For things such as this, i can live with some immoral behavior.

doesn't matter to me how many spaces there are, you don't do it.

Two wrongs don't make a right, but it sure does make me feel better.

[Stevie Northants]

Parking in restricted bays,whether they are disabled or family is just wrong!Especially the disabled ones.

Just because there are a few spare ones doesnt give you the right to use them,what if everybody thought like that?I personally would like to see offenders cars removed and the owners paying a hefty fine to get them back.

Stevie

[danish@125]

Come on guys, we have motorcycles! We don't need bays to be able to park legally

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[True Blue]

I agree to a certain extent that you shouldn't park in Disabled spaced, but sometimes all these disabled spaces are taking the piss. At my local B&Q there are ( and I have counted them ) over 150 Disabled spaces. Come off it, this can't be serious!

And why should Parents with children get to park closer to to shops than me?
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[Gazanimal]

Just to add my opinion to this debate which has developed,I'd just like to say that after having both a child & a disabled Grandmother I really appreciate not having to walk half way across a busy & potentially dangerous car park.

I can't move a wheel chair out of the way as easily as a mobile person can skip between cars so I have to push the chair on the tarmac parts which are being used by vehicles all the time.
This is both dangerous & at times difficult to do especially when you have to keep close to the parked cars so you don't get mowed down by drivers & in the process it puts you in a position that other drivers can't always see you.

Is it that hard for able bodied people people to walk an extra 10-20 yards.....at least you can walk,which is a damn sight more than my gran can do. Use you're heads!!!

I didn't realise how idiotic & unsympathetic people are.....enjoy your legs whilst you can still use them but when you get to 76 & can't walk without aid then don't piss & moan about some little sh*t parking in a parking space that was designed to help you do you're shopping in the easiest & safest manner 'cos I'd stick my middle finger up & you & call you a f*cking hypocrite!

Sorry for ranting but I hate potential hypocrites who have no experience of the dificulties of being disabled.

[swaffs]

[rant]

As a parent with two kids one 1 year old and one four years old (who is has cerebral paulsy) I find in difficult to find a decent parking space.

I use both disabled and parent parking spaces, and anyone who's had to load two young kids and pushchairs etc. without the issue of a four year old who has only been walking for a short while.

we really needs the space of a 'wide' bay, because all the other spaces are so tightly packed and all the prats that can't even be bothered to park straight making it difficult to open doors etc.

I don't know where all the hundred's of empty disable bays are because we often find our self looking for a 'wide' or end space because the disabled bay's are all used legally or illegally.

On one occasion I parked in tesco's car park and forgot to display the blue badge, and came back to find a sticker on the window (which was a bitch to remove!!) asking if I wished to swap my parking space for his disability. Interesting thought.

I don't recall ever seeing disabled bays unavailable due to bikes being in them.
I've not really had experience of parking the bike in many commercial car parks but I'm sure there's always some where to park, especially those poxy tiny spaces that you wouldn't even be able to park a mini in, but some guy parks his volvo estate there blocking the road, just to save walking an extra 30 yards to the lift or escelator (wouldn't want to use the stairs, too much like hard work !!)

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[True Blue]

I don't grude these spaces at all. And I can honestly say that I don't park in them either. But I think there should be a sensible amount of them. this car park I'm on about has to be seen to be believed. It is a very large car park but I would say that 40-45% of the spaces are for disabled drivers. Surely this is disproportionate? It is also as busy a place as you've ever saw. I only go there on my bike so that I can actually get parked.
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[Flip]

My penny's worth...

I do ride a little too fast, but only when I feel it's safe to do so, (if that makes sense) But I don't feel that I ride like a tw*t and I'm not a criminal for doing so.

As for disabled bays and toddler bays, they shouldn't be used by anyone else just 'cause you can't be bothered walking to the shop!!