Security

[darthbuttchin]

Hi guys and gals,

As the time when I'll finally have my CG ready (just got the final electric pains to sort out) is drawing near, I'm starting to think more and more about security for when I have it at with me at Uni. The bikes currently in my parents garden back home in essex, so its quite safe there.

I live in Kingston Upon Thames, which is sort of half in Surrey and half in Greater London. I've no idea about what the bike theft statistics are around here, but there is posters up about an 1198 that's been stolen recently.

Anyway, to cut a long ramble short -

My bike has drum brakes. So I guess the disc lock is out? I know I sound like a noob, but is it possible to attach one to the spokes of the wheel?

Will a strong chain be enough? There isn't really anything to chain the bike to on my drive, and I don't reckon the landlord would allow me to put in a ground anchor...

What would you guys suggest? The Oxford Screamer disc lock seemed brilliant to me, but if it'll be no use I shan't bother buying one!

I know this seems like a lot of effort to go to for a 34 year old CG, but I've literally built this bike myself and I'm completely in love with it. I couldn;t bear to lose my pride and joy.

Tl;dr - Need security to keep bike safe in Greater London, has drum brakes, willing to spend a decent amount.

Cheers,

db
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[Andy_Pagin]

One idea would be to get a large plant pot, fill it up with concrete with an anchor point, though I'd still get the landlords' approval first.
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[_Iain_]

I have the oxford screamer on the front, an armoured cable lock on the rear (wrapped round the spokes, rear shock, and through the chain) & the bikes steering lock....

Still dislike leaving it on the drive though! gotta look into a ground anchor.

Massive chain/loud alarm is a winning combo though IMO!
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[carlosthejack...]

While you may struggle to get a disk lock to fit on a drum, you could always look at a good chain and an alarmed shackle, like this one:

https://www.getgeared.co.uk/OXFORD_Boss_Shackle_Alarm_Lock_14mm_Thatcham?sc=30&category=-130

As others have said, you need to chain it to something immobile, or to the plant pot/concrete/anchor combination. Invest in a cover as well. Make it as difficult as possible, but remember that if the scrotes really want it, they'll have it, regardless of security.
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[Moo.]

Where abouts in kingston are you? I got to the Uni at penryn road
Im in middle mill

Disk lock would work on the cg, i used to have a 1977 cg and used a shackle, chain and cable lock.

If you ebay the make kryptonite, they make locks (mainly for bicycles) but they are VERY sturdy, i've currently got a series 2 lock, its a 13mm shackle, with a very clever locking technique. Kryptonite are so sure about their locks, they offer upto £800 pounds back if you have your lock broken off as compensation for your bike (bicycle, not sure if you could claim for a motorbike )

Even better, these shackles are around £20 new, where as the alternative motorcycle shackle locks are anything fro £40- £180

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kryptonite-Series-2-Shackle-D-Lock-NEW-800-Guarantee-/200670519429?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Cycling_BikeLocks_SR&hash=item2eb8e52085

This kinda thing, comes with a 4ft cable which is very useful for wrapping around wheels, lamposts etc...

Hth
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[darthbuttchin]

Cheers for the replies guys!

I'll definitely look into all suggestions, although anymore are welcome!

@Moo - I go to Penhryn Road too! I'm in second year though, studying Psychology. I actually live on *censored, as my fecklessness was pointed out*

Small world that you're round the corner though.

I saw the most gorgeous bike at the Uni the other day - CBR600RR limited edition, blue/white - I literally stood for 10 minutes just drooling haha.
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[Taught2BCauti...]

For the sake of under £25, get a Cyclone V2 Alarm system with Immobiliser - very reliable and easy to DIY fit.

Apart from a 'U' shaped shackle, you might find a Disc Lock that will fit on your rear sprocket. Not a perfect solution, but if you can get a nice fluorescent one with a hi-viz memory cord - it's better than nothing.

For overnight parking, is there anywhere you could fit a 'Ground Anchor' to chain the bike to?

If it's not in a well-lit area, how about fitting a PIR activated flood light on the house / flat to cover it?
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[Moo.]

Im currently in the process of applying for 2nd year accom Jesus, is it stressful!

Seem a gorgeous 400/4 up at roehampton vale

My bikes back up in lincoln atm but hopefully gunna bring it down for next year

Im a 1st year studying Civil Engineering
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[Llama-Farmer]

Decent chain, and if you can't have an anchor point, are there any lampposts or road sign posts you can put the chain around?

[Kingstondavo]

I live in Kingston too, have had no problems with anyone so much as touching my bike so far *touch wood*

The ducatis that got nicked were very rare, likely stolen to order. This is very unlikely to happen to your CG (no offence intended)

Just get something that makes it difficult to wheel away and bump start to put off the opportunists, a decent chain should be perfect.
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[Llama-Farmer]

Also a bike cover with a long but not particularly expensive (or effective) bicycle lock over the cover round the bike, that will keep eyes off it.

Something like this - https://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_701575_langId_-1_categoryId_165637

[bunglebubs]

A bit off post but I used to travel through Kingston everyday as I worked in Teddington, one of the nicest areas of London IMO.

Anyway try and get some kind of ground anchor like another poster said the concrete in a large plant pot is a good idea.
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[darthbuttchin]

Cheers for all the replies guys! Some very good ideas for protecting my pride and joy .

One question though, and I know I probably sound quite thick, but could someone explain the plant pot thing to me? I don't really understand what you're on about
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[carlosthejack...]

One of these:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JqYd3xXiruw/SdxVotTzQuI/AAAAAAAAAps/Ezb_RVbAYMA/s320/Plantpot.jpg


Plus a bag (or three, dependent on the size of your pot, man) of this:
https://www.building-supplies-online.co.uk/ekmps/shops/targetseo/images/hanson-multi-purpose-concrete-bag-25kg-1576-p.jpg
https://www.building-supplies-online.co.uk/hanson-multi-purpose-concrete-bag-25kg-1576-p.asp

With one of these embedded in it:
https://www.tag-z.co.uk/resources/33-803rd.jpg
https://www.tag-z.co.uk/19.html

While it's not too heavy to have it away, if they REALLY want it, it's enough to put the casual thief off. With the cover over it, a good chain and padlock attached to the concrete filled pot and some sort of alarm (either installed or disk/lock) and you'll be there or thereabouts.

All the best.
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[darthbuttchin]

Hi again,

Cheers for that buddy - makes a lot more sense now.

Just one further question - is it better to have one of the 'ring' style ground anchors you posted, or one like this : https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OXFORD-PRODUCTS-BRUTE-FORCE-BICYCLE-SCOOTER-GROUND-WALL-ANCHOR-/250991693219?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Cycling_BikeLocks_SR&hash=item3a70454da3#ht_1960wt_1270

Or does it not really matter?

Cheers guys,

db
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Call me Tomsk - I am the Flying Womble after all.

[Sako]

may be a good idea to remove the street you live on from this thread, as you are providing a location, bike type and security in one easy to find place.

[P.]

Cyclone V2 alarm, biggest lock you can find and a gun

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[P.]

[Shinigami]

at work due to nothing to chain to I thread the chain between the drive chain, back wheel over the seat and down. That way even if the back wheel was removed it would still be a reet bastard to get it off.

Someone could still lift it up and put it on the back of a pickup though if they really wanted it but they'd 100% be noticed
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[darthbuttchin]

Cheers for the replies guys . One question, is the V2 for 12v systems? Mine is just a lowly 6v (its an old bike), and I don't want to run my battery out all the time. I looked at it, but couldn't see whether it was or not.

Cheers,

db
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[johnsmith222]

[Taught2BCauti...]

Can't find anything to specify 6 or 12 volts, so give them a ring on 01524 419988
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