Big Brother - Total Surveillance

[Jayy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATq-XHSXTuI

What do you think about this shit?

It seems, over the past 6 months, the media has been dominated by acts/bills/statutes/whatever designed to take away our privacy.

Whilst everyone was kicking up a fuss about SOPA, ACTA was being passed left right and centre across Europe.

They've probably already been doing everything in that video for years anyway but even still, slightly worrying.

[Whosthedaddy]

Coudn't care, I've got nothing to hide.
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[Jayy]

^^ Exactly what they want you to say

[L3G3ND_MTX]

Well there goes the last tiny bit of 'freedom' we had, this country and its people are now well and truly owned by the government, just extremely sad i was born into this generation.

[Alpha-9]

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[Hetzer]

This is the kind of thing that happens when the people allow degenerate sub-human filth to run their country.
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[-Savage-]

I don't see the problem.

That information is to be held on everyone.

So what. I don't give a toss if information about me visiting xnxx.com 5 times an hour is held on a database somewhere.

What it does mean, is that after a UK resident terrorist is identified, all their communications for the previous year can be retrieved and studied, showing links and contacts involved in a terror attack.

To get it in context, people in an office somewhere will NOT be monitoring this information on you, unless they have reason to do so. And if they have reason to do so, your web browsing habits being known to someone bound by the official secrets act, are going to be the least of your worries.

Yes it seems to be the first step on a slippery slope, but in the current terror climate, I for one feel that the benefits are clear, and there are no noticeable problems for me.
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[mistergixer]

Thank Jeebus for the government's new initiiative - I'll sleep safely in my bed tonight knowing I'm protected from the evil terrorists and all that.
I just can't understand why people are concerned about this, it's all for our benefit after all..........


EDIT: Savage posted whilst I was typing my post. What worries me is that his post appears to be serious!
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[Hetzer]

[pepperami]

How long before you`re monitored and considered a threat because you visit a website/e-mail someone the govenment merly dont like?
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[Hetzer]

[-Savage-]

Jeez Hetz, get a grip. Would you rather have a UK without the security service? Just let the terror threats (not just Muslims*) do what they want. No point in monitoring communications or monitoring anything really, god forbid we capture some innocent civilian by-stander on cctv!

There are measures that have to be taken, ad they may not be to the liking of everyone, fluffy hippies especially lol. But the alternative is a UK with little ability to combat security threats.

Seeing as your objection is so strong Hetz, what would you propose to be the solution? How do you effectively combat terrorism but maintain every persons privacy?

Edit: And I am aware that as with most things, this is open to abuse, but if you were really that worried about the state of the government, stand for election and do something about it instead of whining about "the Gestapo Nazi scum uber lords" who run the country.
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[Hetzer]

[angryjonny]

[Im-a-Ridah]

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[-Savage-]

Terrorism isn't just about deaths Hetz. I don't know how many acts of terrorism you've been around or been aware of, but they can close down a city for hours even if they are a hoax.

Terrorism doesn't mean someone detonating a device in public to kill people. It's a way to grind things to a halt. Business loose money, transport stops, peoples lives are disrupted, and if it's actually a real threat, life loss and structural damage could occur.

If you were weighing up death by terrorist act, and death on the roads, then yes there are a lot more deaths on the roads. If you look at the wider implications of terrorism, extending further than I can even imagine, then it looks more like a problem area which could do with being controlled.

To say terrorism isn't a problem then I think maybe it's you who needs to wake up.
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[Im-a-Ridah]

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[Babba]

If you aren't worried about this shit 'cos you have nothing to hide, then please try to be a little more cynical & look into the possibility that it isn't actually aimed at a very small minority of really evil type people.

They really are evil, they're also very devious & very, very cunning (they have to be to survive) & will easily find ways to still be really, really evil whilst remaining under the radar !

This shit is ultimately aimed at the majority of the population, who stupidly think they have nothing to hide.

[Hetzer]

[The Artist]

I agree with Hetzer. I wouldn't call the people in power "sub human scum" but some of these rules and regs being made are insane.

[angryjonny]

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