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PostPosted: 22:09 - 14 Mar 2012    Post subject: commuting in London: crossing points Reply with quote

Hello,
Haven't posted for a while. My office is currently at Old Street in London. We're thinking of moving and the likeliest place is going to be London Bridge or Waterloo. I might have to use one of the bridges when commuting. How congested are the bridges across the Thames during morning rush hour? I never used them before during rush hour but imagine they must be serious bottlenecks in the morning traffic.

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PostPosted: 22:24 - 14 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

London Bridge (northbound side) has 2 lanes plus a bus lane, almost every car queues up in the right hand lane so its easy for all the morning commuting bikers to cross the bridge in the middle lane but we have to join the right lane at a bottleneck at the end of the bridge, at rush hour times I always have to wait to get into the lane and through the lights that are right there but pass almost 50 stationary cars before I get there lol
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PostPosted: 22:29 - 14 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neither of the bridges are seriously congested, as said London Bridge queues on the right so you only need to filter the last bit between the kerb and the traffic. Waterloo is okay if you are taking the underpass so long as the underpass isn't closed - if it is then you're in for a long wait. Southwark Bridge is easy on a bike and right between the two. Just keep off Victoria Embankment. Travel up and down the South side and choose a bridge to cross on.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 14 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northbound Waterloo is OK, providing the Kingsway tunnel is open; if not, I've seen it queueing back almost to St George's Circus.

TBH, none of the crossings on that side are particular hot spots (Tower Bridge is probably the worst) they all have good and bad days.
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PostPosted: 09:26 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid Lambeth and Tower really, all others are generally fine.
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PostPosted: 13:02 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the above but Blackfriars is not good due to the Blackfriars Station works atm.

Southwark bridge is a pain as you have to approach from the East, no right turn from the West.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said, should not be bad enough to factor into your decision making process about where you live...
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all the replies. I guess the traffic is pretty bad already at the moment from East London where I live, Olympics works and all, but I get around ok. So some bridges definitely nothing to worry too much about.
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PostPosted: 21:03 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: commuting in London: crossing points Reply with quote

czakal wrote:
My office is currently at Old Street in London.


Snap.

Which way do you ride in? Up Great Eastern St?
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PostPosted: 21:29 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had major problems between Lambeth Bridge and Tower Bridge, except for road works - but I think that bikes are allowed in some of the bus lanes since I was last in London, so that might affect your overall route and choice of bridge.
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed I go in via Great Eastern St, which is half closed.
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PostPosted: 22:38 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

czakal wrote:
Indeed I go in via Great Eastern St, which is half closed.


Balls at the moment isn't it - went Leadenhall / St Mary's / London Wall / Moorgate the other day, and that was just as pony.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 15 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Just keep off Victoria Embankment.

What's wrong with Victoria Embankment?
I use that route every day, back and forth.
(well, when the bike's on the road, I do) Shifty
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PostPosted: 19:11 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
Pete. wrote:
Just keep off Victoria Embankment.

What's wrong with Victoria Embankment?
I use that route every day, back and forth.
(well, when the bike's on the road, I do) Shifty


Catch it at the wrong time of day, or any time when it's busy, and you're stuck. Very difficult to filter on it when the coaches are parked coz the traffic compresses and there's no way through.

I almost never use that road after getting caught a couple of times in baking heat.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

czakal wrote:
Indeed I go in via Great Eastern St, which is half closed.


Freakin' half hour late for drinks on (the night before) paddy's night tonight just because of that stupid frickin' road. In a cab, obviously, not on the bike, otherwise I could never have consumed as much (poor quality) guiness.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

arry do you travel back the A13 way? I regularly see a sprint 1050 on my way home and I know we live reasonably close.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Re: commuting in London: crossing points Reply with quote

czakal wrote:
Hello,
I might have to use one of the bridges when commuting. How congested are the bridges across the Thames during morning rush hour? I never used them before during rush hour but imagine they must be serious bottlenecks in the morning traffic.

Seb


Used to go across Tower Bridge every day. Was usually chocker at rush hour but plenty of room to filter down the middle so was never a problem. The only hold up was when the bridge opened to let a boat through (which usually happens when running late for work !).
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. wrote:
Catch it at the wrong time of day, or any time when it's busy, and you're stuck. Very difficult to filter on it when the coaches are parked coz the traffic compresses and there's no way through.


I can see how that situation would suck.
Strangely enough I encountered exactly that situation last week, when I had to use the A13 cos the Limehouse Link was closed, and I was very annoyed to find myself at a completely gridlocked standstill halfway down that bit of road just before the Rotherhithe Tunnel for more than 5 minutes, which is a LONG time when you are filtering.

Must be that either I catch the Embankment at the time of day its not so bad at around 8.45am-9.20am-ish - or maybe I've just got a smaller bike GPZ500, and can get thru gaps (no luggage, top boxes, panniers, etc - the fattest thing on my bike's filtering profile is probably my calves).

It used to be pretty hellish when the anti-parking tax people were having their bacon sandwich run on Wednesday mornings Sad

Plus ... I have been known to be a bit saucy about squeezing thru gaps *blush* I tend to sit behind learners on those big mopeds going "Come on, luv, you could get a bus thru there!!", much to the consternation of the other riders Laughing
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how many of us pass each other regularly and don't realise, seems to be lots of routes criss crossing the same area.
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PostPosted: 23:50 - 16 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
arry do you travel back the A13 way? I regularly see a sprint 1050 on my way home and I know we live reasonably close.

I never know who anybody is. Bikes all look the same to me, and I am regularly on planet hellkat. The whole lot of you could pass me every day (and Chris often does, LOL) and I probably wouldnt even notice. At the very least, you'd have to have a BCF sticker and your forum nickname painted in luminous letters on the side of your bike/jacket/helmet before I'd know who it was Laughing

... although I *do* often recognise a man in a very interesting pair of red leather trousers . . . no idea what bike he has. I just noticed how attractively the trousers are filled Laughing (maybe he has a Ducati? not sure, haha)
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PostPosted: 07:02 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll see me as I nearly always have a red and black Wickes toolbag bungeed on the back of my bike. Must be on my fifth bag now.
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PostPosted: 09:31 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

c_dug wrote:
arry do you travel back the A13 way? I regularly see a sprint 1050 on my way home and I know we live reasonably close.


I do, but I don't commute in on bike very often - perhaps 2-3 times a month. So if you're seeing it regularly, not me guv Smile
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PostPosted: 10:09 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete. & hellkat wrote:
...Embankment...


I vary between Victoria Embankment or other methods of getting to and from the City, but I’m coming in from the West.

I think the reason Embankment gets so snarled up westbound is because of the generous width of the cycle lane. Cars and other multi-wheelers give the cycle lane an extra bit of room leaving almost no space to filter between the cars. You can follow the example of the lemmings... ...sorry, scooters... ...and nip down the cycle lane, but you’re just asking for trouble. The cycle lane is easily wide enough for bicycles to ride three abreast and it’s often largely empty. Maybe it’ll get busier in the summer. Plus there’s a couple of right turn lanes that build up queues and folk pull out of them across the filtering path.

Sometimes I do as Pete recommends and cross South at Westminster Bridge, go east along the A3200 then back north over Blackfriars or the reverse. I try to mix up my routes to work. Keeps it from getting dull and improves my knowledge of London geography.

I’m not looking forward to what the Olympics are going to do to my commuting routes.
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PostPosted: 11:45 - 17 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was behind you hellkat about 2months ago on the Beckton slip road off the A13, tried to pull up beside you before the lights changed but never made it and you were away pretty sharpish...loll
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