Privatisation of the roads...

[Snorty]

Wahey, it was only a matter of time eh?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116858/Motorists-face-pay-drive-tolls-plans-lease-roads.html

Wonder how this will affect us, if it comes to pass. They plan to introduce lanes you can pay for to bypass traffic. We don't have that problem already... but they can't charge us for the privilege.

...Yet!
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[Nick 50]

We already have many privately own roads. Obviously there are the well known ones like the M6 but there are many others where we are paying tolls without ever knowing about it.

Under many PFI projects, "Shadow Tolls" are used on roads which are owned by companies. With Shadow Tolls, the government is billed directly for the number of cars that travel upon the roads in the hope of hiding the fact from the british public. To be fair it has worked as many people are completely unaware of the PFI schemes.
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[Kris]

Unfortunately, I feel car drivers will be sitting in the same traffic queues but yet will have paid an extra £5 for the privilege...


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[CaNsA]

So..... If the government has less roads to look after...... does that mean the price of road tax will decrease.....?

I Think NOT!

[robbieguy2003]

I think it's a piss poor thing to do to be quite frank. The problem with this country, and has been for the last ~30 years is that they've sold capital assets to fix short term money problems.

The railway, gas, electric and post office all provided ongoing revenue, but they took a not so fat cheque to fix problems, then didn't seem to give a shit about the lack of ongoing income.

Selling the roads is scraping the barrel a bit to be quite honest and it shows how much of a mess this country is in. The companies building and maintaining the roads will want to make a profit, so that money leaves the scheme entirely. It's piss poor, but the country spends more than it earns, and the lack of revenues from so many sold off services is impacting in bigger and bigger ways.

Money management is probrably the governments biggest issue, they buy a shit load of stuff but quite often get screwed on the prices they pay. Shame really because if they got an ok deal, at the scale they buy at, it'd save billions overnight.
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[pinkyfloyd]

Love it. Its on the BBC News website.

This is the bit I love the best.

[Kris]

Anyone fancy a good riot?
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[Shinigami]

"They would not be allowed to levy tolls on existing roads, but could charge them on new routes. It was not clear last night whether tolls would be permitted on roads that are substantially improved or widened."

Doesn't sound like too much to worry about at the moment but could be awkward going forward.

I don't see where the saving is being made though due to this apart from the upgront payment for the lease?

"Successful bidders would pay upfront for the lucrative leases and be guaranteed a yearly payment from the Government for maintaining the roads."
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Think that about sums it all up with these clampets in charge.
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More public roads; everyone pays.
More private roads/lanes: rich people pay, bikers don't suffer, the government has more money to for making sure existing roads are ok.

Remember, you now have to pay to use central London in a car for a lot of the time. Worse in a bigger 'commercial' vehicle for the low emissions zone, which unfortunately also includes a range of leisure vehicles.

[Polarbear]

If the railways are anything to go by, it will be a totally enormous cock up that will end up costing millions..
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[Rogerborg]

The Olympic Zil Lanes have clearly got the rulers thinking. Why muck around with the base, common and popular when you can waft along in a special lane just for important people like you?

If it's just extra lanes on the same roads though, I can't figure out what happens at the "pinch points"; are we going to have to give way to our masters, making congestion in the Poor Lanes even worse?
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[doggone]

I'm not sure in practice it would be that different to how some roads are already 'operated' by private companies.
A local one the A19 springs to mind which is maintained by a company called Autolink, they are paid on the basis of 'shadow tolls'

https://www.highways.gov.uk/roads/projects/5283.aspx

[TheSmiler]

Meh the companies that are employed to look after local A roads are shocking anyway and deserve to have their contracts canceled and companies crushed.
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