Too much protein and its effects on the kidneys

[Wave2k]

Ive been going to the gym fairly frequently for about 3 years, im not body builder but i like to keep myself toned plus i enjoy keeping fit.

Ive noticed that at times when im trying to bulk by switching up my diet to add more protein, i get a kinda dull kidney ache.

At first i thought that i was just the protein shakes, so i changed to a more natural soy based shake but with the similar effects.


This has lead me to think that first, protein shakes arnt any good for you secondly, is too much protein actually good for you ?

When im on protein shakes, i pee perhaps 3 times as often as i usually do.

This is surely down to them being overloaded with protein, so its purging it, perhaps causing the dull ache in my kidneys.

This only ever happens when im trying to bulk.


Anyone else experience the ache ?
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[Alpha-9]

As far as I know you will shit and piss out anything you don't process, which I guess would put additional strain on your kidneys if it was working all the excess protein out of your body on a day to day basis.

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https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900

https://www.daveywaveyfitness.com/nutrition/8-side-effects-of-too-much-protein/

[Paulington]

No studies have shown that increased protein intake can increase the likelihood of suffering from problems with your kidneys in people with normal function.

The reason you get the ache, most likely, is that an increased protein intake means the kidneys have to work harder to excrete what is not needed, the pain likely will get worse if you aren't staying correctly hydrated as without adequate hydration, your kidneys can't excrete the proteins.

You pee more because you have more to excrete, simple. Generally people on high protein diets have 'foamy' pee.

However, because you suffer pain, I'd suggest visiting your Doctor. Your body is capable of warning you and pain is a warning sign, it could be an indicator that your kidney function is beginning to become somehow impaired. Worst case would likely be kidney stones caused by increased uric acid levels.

Also, three rules on a high protein workout diet:

1) Water.
2) Water.
3) More water.

I think the recommendation is something like 3 litres per day per 100lbs of body weight on workout days when on a high protein diet. So a 200lb man should be drinking 6 litres a day MINIMUM. More is better, spread over the day of course.

Cheers!
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[robs321]

Stop being a Nancy and EAT MORE PIES!

[GhostRider]

[TUG]

Well i get tested for shit like this with my diabetes, and they check for protien being passed through my kidneys and stuff, i've had dull aches when i've had results that doctors have been concerned about. I'd get it checked out to be honest but then again i tend to want to keep my organs... or whats left of them in good condition so they sell for more.
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[Moo.]

Drink lots more water, your kidneys can give a dull ache, kinda feels like an ache in the lower back, probably something to do with the water. Make sure you drink plenty!

I got a bit dehydrated while i had winter vomiting bug and i couldnt sleep because of the kidney ache
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[Paulington]

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[swampy]

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[Paulington]

How is it contradictory? I've said in both bits you quoted that whilst most don't have symptoms, some do and of those that do it is general symptoms that are written off. Saying "CKD has no symptoms" is totally wrong.

I know it clearly states that? That is in line with what I have said, refer above paragraph.

He hasn't mentioned any CKD symptoms, meaning two things:

A) He has CKD and is asymptomatic.
B) He doesn't have CKD.

Statistically? It's more likely he doesn't have CKD. So why would I ask about CKD when the chances are he doesn't have it? Asking about CKD would be premature when his only symptom mentioned is kidney pain during increased protein intake.

I get that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but, in this case, the chances of him having CKD is incredibly slim, so there is no need to mention it in my opinion.

As for "oedema in the UK", sure, using British English. Do you use British English for everything? Neighbour? Colour? Sulfur? When I was reading and studying about edema, it was all in American English, so I used that, regardless, anyone who knows what edema/oedema will know what I mean. !
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[Lyam]

the body can only process something like 30 g of protien an hour hence why bodybuilders etc eat 8-10 meals a day, if youre taking in alot more than that then it can have an effect

[killa]

Aside from your aches...is there a real need for the shakes instead of a change in diet?
Two of my friends have been using the shakes and one is now struggling to get rid of fat and the other has decided to stop the shakes, for reasons he hasn’t explained.
Surely a good change in diet would be better instead of becoming disproportioned or ill.
Work hard with what you’ve got and eat well.
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[GhostRider]

Lol everyones a doctor now.

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