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drew86
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PostPosted: 21:40 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Almost ready too buy an ER6F Reply with quote

its a 2008 with 3000 miles on and is like brand new. i'm on a restricted license so will have it restricted. just wondered if anyone has ridden a 33bhp ER6F and about their experience. is it totally useless? or is it a huge step up from my 125 days? will I find myself longing for the extra power? is it dangerous? does it suddenly stop revving for example?

Also, i'm thinking of fitting an alarm and have seen various self fit alarms on ebay for less than £30. does anyone have experience of fitting one? how'd it go etc?

now i've asked a million questions i'll stop typing Smile
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PostPosted: 21:41 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, got one more question. does it have under seat storage?

is a tank or tail bag better? just soft luggage, can't afford a full on top box just yet! Sad
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PostPosted: 21:51 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You will long for the extra power but there is nothing you can do apart from wait or do the full licence!

Is 2008 the facelift model? If not the older one is alot more vibey! They apparently improved the engine mounted and dampening on the newer ones.

I liked the Er6f but found the mirrors were a nightmare and seat uncomfortable.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be a huge power difference, but a manageable one I'd imagine.

It should have under seat storage, but im not sure how much. Nowhere near as much as a tank bag or backpack though. Probably enough for a chain and a pair of gloves.

I have a Cyclone V2 alarm that I fitted on my bike. Unbelievably easy, even for a muppet like me. It works, and is loud when I want it to be, was about £30 I believe.
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

No centre stand either...
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PostPosted: 22:00 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manuel wrote:
Is 2008 the facelift model? If not the older one is alot more vibey! They apparently improved the engine mounted and dampening on the newer ones.

I liked the Er6f but found the mirrors were a nightmare and seat uncomfortable.


i'm not sure if its the facelift model, i'll check before parting with cash! Smile
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PostPosted: 22:01 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

troy1234 wrote:
It will be a huge power difference, but a manageable one I'd imagine.

It should have under seat storage, but im not sure how much. Nowhere near as much as a tank bag or backpack though. Probably enough for a chain and a pair of gloves.

I have a Cyclone V2 alarm that I fitted on my bike. Unbelievably easy, even for a muppet like me. It works, and is loud when I want it to be, was about £30 I believe.


Thanks Troy, there are useful things to think about. and i'm glad fitting the alarm was muppet proof. i should just about manage Very Happy
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Facelift model was 2009 onward.

I recently tried a 2008 ER6f and found it horribly vibratey. I believe there was some real issues with the fairings vibrating, especially at higher speeds.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take a test ride. I found the ER6f a bit uninspiring. Vibey, weak engine, noticably budget suspension and for a commuter bike not very comfortable either.

Get a hornet instead.
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recluso wrote:
Facelift model was 2009 onward.

I recently tried a 2008 ER6f and found it horribly vibratey. I believe there was some real issues with the fairings vibrating, especially at higher speeds.


in reality, the fastest i'll ride is 70. i'm not much of a speed freak, and most my riding will be NSL around 50mph. is the vibrating even noticable then?

the ER6F has only 3500 miles on. the other option i have is a 2007 GSF650 (faired bandit) which has 13000 miles on. is this a better choice? I thought the ER6F was a really well regarded bike and with such low miles I figured it was a failsafe option! Sad doh! back to the drawing board!

its really hard as with the 33bhp license, i'm unable to testride so have to go on other peoples opinions and guidance from review sites etc. and its a lot of money to spend if i'm going to hate what I buy.
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're welcome Thumbs Up

Don't take others opinions as fact. They are just opinions after all. Get down to a dealer and take a test ride, and test ride a couple of others if you can. Even if you don't plan on buying anything else, at least you'll be able to make some useful comparisons. Cool
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ER6 is a great bike, ignore the post about budget suspension, I have seen much worse on other bikes. I have owned my n for 3.5 years and I really like it.

Never had it on 33bhp though.

And there is zero and I mean zero underseat storage.

Not even a disk lock.

All I manage is some ear plugs. I am not exaggerating.
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As said 2008 is pre facelift so the original er6, its does suffer from vibes more than second coming which has improved mountings and rubber coated foot pegs ect.

I've not ridden the earlier bike but from what I read whilst researching buying an er6 its a very good bike and a favourite in class, its likely that if you haven't got anything to compare it to (other than 125) you'll not think about the vibes. You'll also find it much quicker even in restricted form.

I may be biased because I have a mk2 er6f but I think they are great bikes.

Under seat storage is limited by the way so dont even factor that in when thinking about carrying stuff.
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rowey wrote:
Take a test ride. I found the ER6f a bit uninspiring. Vibey, weak engine, noticably budget suspension and for a commuter bike not very comfortable either.

Get a hornet instead.


Weak engine....compared to what?? Its a twin so has loads of torque across the rev range and a decent top end of 130 ish. A much better engine than many of the 600's in class.

Suspension is more than adequate for most day to day riding and sunday fun day stuff. Again you can't compare it to more expensive bikes.

I've ridden 5 or 6 hours without any worries, the riding position is good so no wrist or back ache. The seat is pretty comfy, only minimal butt ache after prolonged rides.
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the incredibly overpriced 08 model sat in South Wales Superbikes for about £3500 with the rear end butchered that I have already advised one member on here not to buy?
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

My missus has a 2008 ER6-N. I don't find it that bad for vibration to be honest.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Is this the incredibly overpriced 08 model sat in South Wales Superbikes for about £3500 with the rear end butchered that I have already advised one member on here not to buy?


heh South Wales Superbikes and overpriced go together like cheese and chips.

Honestly not sure how they stay in business.
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PostPosted: 23:20 - 19 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is this the one - https://www.sw-superbikes.co.uk/used-bikes/kawasaki/417-kawasaki-er-6f-abs.html
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

troy1234 wrote:


Considering my 2008 ER6F was only £4000 new and thats list price they really are taking the piss for a 3.5 year old bike with many known potential problems that are usually dealt with under warranty but wouldn't be with this as it is outside warranty.
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PostPosted: 09:11 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

troy1234 wrote:


Shocked Are they for real? Is there some swingeing import tax on Welsh bikes that I'm not aware of? Confused

I'm not saying that you should, but for another £650, you could walk into a Suzuki dealership and buy a brand new SV650S tomorrow, for £1 down and 3% - 5% finance if that's a consideration.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd do more research on what bike you want/is better. It seems you aren't that sure. I'd choose the bike which suits your requirements best rather than what's available right now.

Also, I'd recommend an SV650 over the ER6F. I was in the same situation as you, I did my research, literally months of it, ended up with an SV650 and so glad I did.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

drew86 wrote:
the ER6F has only 3500 miles on. the other option i have is a 2007 GSF650 (faired bandit) which has 13000 miles on. is this a better choice? I thought the ER6F was a really well regarded bike and with such low miles I figured it was a failsafe option! Sad doh! back to the drawing board!

its really hard as with the 33bhp license, i'm unable to testride so have to go on other peoples opinions and guidance from review sites etc. and its a lot of money to spend if i'm going to hate what I buy.


I was in the same boat and ended up with an '06 650 Bandit(carbed - it's on an 07 plate tho, so check what you're looking at!).

It was more than enough power for the first year; through the second I've been more aware of the limitation but it's still OK; with 10 days to go until the 2 years are up, time has slowed to a crawl!!

Bandit is a straight-forward-no-surprises bike; lashings of ACF50 have seen the winters off; I was considering an Er6 too, but when I saw the state of the finish on the one I was looking at in JTs (rusty swingarm was the start....) I went for the nicest bandit I could afford, on the basis no-one's excited by them but don't really have a lot more bad to say on the whole (cue the haters Wink ).
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, my mate has just got a 2009 er6n restricted and he seems to be enjoying it so far. His last bike was a cbr600f but had to sell because his insurance was over £1k !!
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

As someone who has also recently passed their test, I know how thrilling it is knowing that you can trade in the 125 and get a 'big boy/girl' bike.

DON'T RUSH IT.

Take your time. Don't jump onto the first thing that catches your eye - what if it turns out not to be the right 'fit' for you? Yes, it means you might miss a bargain or two, but wouldn't you rather be COMPLETELY sure that you've found the right bike rather than save some money on it?

On the ER6f front, whilst generally popular (hell they're nice looking bikes!) the advice I received from a few folks was to try and go for 2009 onward (look for the digital dash) as it was from the 'revamp' model and beyond that Kawasaki was ironing out some major kinks in the model.
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PostPosted: 13:33 - 20 Mar 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ER6s are nice looking bikes. I rode a friend's one on a few occasions (pre facelift) and I concur with the "vibey" comments. I'm surprised it didn't shake its fairings off. It's not going to set the world on fire - I've never been a huge fan of parallel-twins to be frank - but you're not going to get anything mental on a 33bhp restriction. If you get one (this one or another) fit decent crash bungs to it because it'll end up on its side at some point and those plastics are expensive (I normally advise "nekkid" as a first big bike). I recall they were a PITA to fit on the ER6 - at least the mushrooms on my friend's were because the frame and fairing holes don't line up so you have to involve extra brackets etc. But they saved her ER6 when she threw it at the ground a couple of times.
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