hello

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hi just wanted to introduce myself and ask a few questions first of all im from the northwest ( st helens ) and looking to do my cbt soon, once ive done that im after getting myself a ybr 125.
Ive seen people posts about how the 125's are just training tools but is it that bad to use day to day? i turn 21 in june and would be able to do the das but due to financial reasons id probably be looking at just doing the cbt, maybe mod 1 / 2 and staying in the 2 yr restriction and sticking with the ybr until its over. also whats the maximum cc bike you can ride after passing the mod 1/2 and being in the 2 yr restriction? wasnt sure if that changed from 125cc.

thanks.

[Kingstondavo]

[FerretFing]

Welcome to the forum ....our resident lecturer Tef will no doubt be along shortly to enlighten you with his MANY words of wisdom

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[the_quick]

The both mods cost the same as far as I know, difference is, if you do them on 125cc you will be restricted to 33bhp for 2 years.

The problem with changes from next Jan is, that you will be restricted till you reach 24 and than you have to pass some test again on bigger bike. if you do it before that restriction will lift automatically after 2yr period.

Anyway, you don't have to buy bigger bike after mods if you do not wish to, but defo you will be disappointed with lack of power of 125cc, especially up the hill, doing 40mph .

I'm sure Mike will come with full and more answer.
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[Andy_Pagin]

It's not a cubic capacity restriction, you're basically restricted to 33bhp, most bikes can be restricted down to this with a kit.
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[Kingstondavo]

As has been said many times before, DAS doesn't have to be an intensive course. You could do 6 months practice on your 125, then one days training on a 600 to get used to it, then use the schools bike to take your test, probably costs an extra £150 and means no restriction....

Not saying its right for you, it's just another option, if the time comes when you are ready for your test and you have the extra cash to do it on a 600, I would say it was well worthwhile.
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[Rogerborg]

What I'd suggest is getting the 125, passing your tests on it (the sooner you get them booked the better, it's likely to be crazy busy this year) and get yourself an "A <= 25kW" license. As said, that lets you ride anything as long as it's <= 25kW (~33bhp) and 0.16kW/kg (some very light offroad stylees or mental 2 stroke 125s are technically over the power-to-weight, but I doubt anyone will ever care).

Then when you hit 21 you can decide whether to do "accelerated access" which is essentially just the 'large' aka DAS bike test. Pass it, your license upgrades immediately, fail it, no harm, you can just try again, you don't lose your 25kW entitlement.

The beauty of doing it that way is that you can get a bigger bike, restrict it down to 25kW then turn up for your 'large' test on it. Now, it's supposed to be making 35kW for that test, but it comes down to whether they ask and what you reply. For protective colouration, you could have a mate pillion you in to the test centre, or fiddle around under the seat or around the carbs for a few minutes.
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[Teflon-Mike]

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thanks for the info mike, lost me a bit (well completely ) at the end of the post but otherwise helpful info , ive emailed a local place that does cbt's to see about what bikes they have there (im slightly on the larger side so concerned about them only having small 125's) but i was thinking earlier about when i get a bike and parking it. unfortunately i dont have a garage and the entrance to my house / garden is a nice 2ft staircase so i dont fancy trying to haul the bike up and down them every time im going out on it, id be getting a disc lock and a chain with it but im a bit concerned because there is no where near that i could actually chain the bike to outside my house, is there any other options i could use apart from a disc lock that i could use to secure the bike outside of my house? (cant put a ring thingy in the floor as there is a fence blocking my front garden and the steps start right away so couldn't push the bike in there ). i know i can put a cover over it to stop people seeing what bike it is and hopefully deter them but id be looking for something as well as the disc lock. thanks

[Rogerborg]

What kind of fence? Can you cut holes in it large enough to pass a chain through, then put an anchor / bucket of concrete in the inside and the bike tight against the outside?
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there are gaps in the fence so i suppose that could be an option but then it would block the path so i dont think my neighbors will be too happy about that