Bike Tracker Demo Run

[BikeRS Scotland]

Hi all
This isn't a sales pitch, so i haven't listed any websites or brand names
until the mods say if this is OK.
I work for a company who have just launched a thatcham cat6 bike tracker.
The first one in the country to be cat6 & not use the bikes battery as a power source, instead using the bikes ignition supply to charge an internal battery. This can help lower insurance costs & renewal premiums

I would like to offer one of your Glasgow/ West coast members a demo unit for a week or two's use. In return for a review for your members on the forum & some pics. I'll even let you "steal" your bike & show you on your smartphone where it is!

Like I said, I'm not doing a full on sales pitch, just after a bit of product demonstation for your members. If the mods agree, I'll post our website & other info here later.

Hope this is Ok
Colin






Dear mods.
I have read the rules & hope this is within them.
I don't want to start my first thread by selling, merely trying to gauge opinions & ask for help.
If this is not within the rules, please delete & accept my apologies.
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[Nick 50]

Nice to see a company who are willing to offer demo products but also respect the rules of the forum.

Good luck with your venture. Shame i'm not in Glasgow though
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[Pol Anorl]

how about you post it down to me in south east england i ride daily
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[Dazbo666]

I'll test it around Cardiff / M4 South Wales if ya like?!
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[0l0dom0l0]

Sounds good. I'll be following this with interest.
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[Shinigami]

oh lordy, a company posting with decorum? who'd have thought!

Shame I'm not Glasgow, I'd have probably tried it out for you.

What happens if it actually gets nicked along with the tracker though? Do you go in torchwood style?
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[P.addy]

If you are happy to trial it in crime central Maidstone in Kent, let me know... I'll happily give it a go, as will half of Maidstone

[Aikman666]

Regrettably I'm a bit further North in Dundee - And my wiring loom resembles a bit of a rats nest

Interesting product though; I've been pondering designing some sort of tracking system using social networking but more with the view of the user using it to update people of his location. Good luck
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Aikman666

That Sounds perfect for telling people where I am if they want to nick my bike or burgle my house
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[Cadbury]

I am in the Glasgow area, my bike is parked in the city centre most days.

One question - if it is only going to be a 'demo' unit for a week or 2, how hard is it to fit/remove and will it leave any damage to my ignition/wiring once removed?

My bike is a 98 Fazer by the way, and I'd potentially be interesting in helping you guys out.

Adam

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[Aikman666]

[pits]

I am not a big advocate of security systems if I am honest, for me their cost out weighs the benefit would rather they just take the bike.

Out of interest, lets say someone knows the bike has this tracker on it, and they attempt to remove it or disable it, will it totally screw the bike up?

For me it wouldn't be something I would look at to be honest, I just cba with the hassle of spending £600+ or what ever it would cost for the system, to save maybe £50 on insurance, at the end of the day if someone is going to steal it, then it would have to be parked outside, which means my steering lock will be on, which means they are going to fuck my bike up anyways.
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[Jayy]

I will just put this here...

I used to work in the telematics industry and infact, supply these type of systems to commercial vehicle fleets and the general public. You need to check with your insurance company how much of a discount they will give you based on having a system like this installed because some of them don't offer you any discount at all.

Doesn't make sense does it? However, I specifically remember one customer who had 15 big arctic lorries and his insurance was around £70,000 and they said they would knock £15k off by having trackers on all of them.

Questions...

Is this a live system that updates every 60 seconds or is it an asset tracker that's only activate when needed?

If it's not using the bike battery, it must have it's own source, how long does that last?

Do you own the software or have you built the unit to use someone else's like Navman or Ctrack (Used to be Minor Planet).

How much is the monthly cost for live tracking (if it's not an asset tracker)

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[BikeRS Scotland]

[BikeRS Scotland]

Thanks guys for the comments & questions

Like I said earlier, I don't want the hard sell as much as you guys on here don't want it either. I'm not on here to brass folk off honestly.
I'm not a salesman. I'm an engineer that covers Scotland fitting trackers for insurance companies. As a sideline I've took on this tracker for the company I work for in Birmingham & I'm trying to launch it north of the border.

So far tommybhoy and caddilacmoon have offered to trial the unit.
Many thanks guys. I'll be in touch

I'm trying to sort out a forum discount as well

Cheers
Colin
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[Villers]

You seem to have thought it through and I hope it all goes well for you and your company.

My perspective, and just my opinion, is that once the bike is stolen then its gone, and I pretty much don't want it back.

Reasons for this are:

1. You are going to be claiming anyway
2. The bike comes back with whatever damage has already happened
3. You dont know whats happened to it
4. You dont just get hiked premiums but instead get a bike with a history that means its worth far less than before.

Unless you enjoy the thrill of the chase I dont see the point in a hidden system. Unless you think you are batman and are going to be wading into whatever situation to rescue it then its pointless. As far as a system goes I'd say scrap the £xxx to buy it £xxx to fit it no doubt and the £100 a year for the tracker subscription and replace them with a £1.50 sticker that says 'tracker fitted'. More than likely to put off the casuals and make someone more talented think twice. For me its like leaving a light on to make burglars think you are out, except its a table lamp thats hidden in a cupboard.

The same goes for immobilsers (why have an immobiliser on something that can be carried away? Likely to leave you stranded with no ignition in the middle of nowhere?) and alarms (noisy, unreliable, mostly ignored).

An alarm/immobilser would save me £30 a year or something ridiculous. May get that back if I insure the same bike for 10 years or so. Not guaranteed to stop it being lifted though.

With the tracker all I can imagine is my ex pride and joy turn up on the back of a wagon after being stripped/damaged etc with the added bonus of our legal system giving the red handed culprit the benefit of the doubt and 150 hours telling an old bloke to f@ck off.

Like I say just my opinion, the security industry likes to prey on a lot of peoples insecurities for me.
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[BikeRS Scotland]

Just thought I'd show you guys what has happened this morning.
My demo unit was woke up yesterday, tested & boxed up along with my stock order. It's now running on its battery.
When I checked my email this morning, I've had 13 messages to say its been tampered with of towed. It's in the courier hgv coming up from down south!

https://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj77/dirrrtydawgg/1aa34ff9.jpg

It's now here.
Inside the citylink depot[/img]
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