ABS to be compulsory on over 125cc's - MAG Update

[bikertomm]

Just seen this on my facebook.






'There has been an official announcement that the rules on the future of Type-Approval for two- and three-wheeled vehicles have now been provisionally agreed by MEPs and Council (governments') negotiators.

The headlines are...

- Anti-lock braking systems (ABS) on all new motorcycles over 125 cc.
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-Either ABS or combined brake systems (CBS) on all new bikes/scooters under 125 cc - four years after implementation (c.2016/17?) the Commission will have to present a cost-effectiveness analysis, with recommendations as to whether the rules should be revised.

- Anti-Tampering measures on power-trains of new A1 (125cc bikes/scooters) and A2 (48bhp bikes/scooters) - the details to be decided under 'Delegated-Acts' by the Commission and experts over the next 12-18 months.

NB: the findings of an official study recently completed by TRL for the Commission show that AT will not be easy to achieve, so the main hope has to be that manufacturers will be able to take a light-touch when it comes to designing-out the possibility of modifications being made to the power-train.

- Euro 3 emission standards will apply to new mopeds from 1 January 2016.

- New motorcycles will have to meet the more stringent Euro 4 standards from 2016 and Euro 5 limits from 2020 - the Commission will have to carry out a comprehensive environmental impact study before 2016 to evaluate the air quality and share of pollutants emitted by bikes.

Next steps:

The provisionally agreed text still needs to be formally endorsed by Council and Parliament. The deal will be put to an Internal Market Committee vote in October (rubber stamp) and then a plenary vote of the full Parliament on 19th November.

The Delegated Acts are likely to take 12-18 months to thrash-out, these will be subject to scrutiny by MEPs but any changes that the Commission won't accept could only be forced by the MEPs if they were prepared to throw out the whole thing.

MAG as a FEMA member had a presence at the FEMA meeting this weekend just gone in Brussels. We will issue a further report shortly.'
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[Rogerborg]

That's outrageous! That that ABS won't be mandatory on 125s as well, I mean. If you can't just buy an MEP to put any laws you want on the books then what's the world coming to?
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[Alpha-9]

O rly

I would like to try one of these magic accident proof ABS bikes, if it's good then I really don't mind having it, but being forced to have it is a cock, what about old bikes? How can they force everyone to upgrade their old bikes to ABS, some may not even be fit for it surely

Meh

I'd like to try it for myself though, only saw videos on youtube which involve someone braking purposely silly hard to crash on purpose and doing silly things with the front wheel on giant stabilisers...not really a fair test imo

Oh I see, on new machines from 2016, not too bad then if you're okay on any bike pre-2016, but post 2016, then what?
All bikes to be ABS electric faggot bikes?
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[map]

I think manufacturers are getting ahead of the game as I'm led to believe new models already have abs or linked brakes. However, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a good excuse for a price hike on new machines.

I think the makers also ahead with the emission regulations although for years smaller mopeds have been subject to no modifications. Maybe this will see the end of the 2-stroke? Any news if emission regs will mean the sensor up the exhaust for MOT for bikes?

I'd really like a definitive answer on what anti-tamper actually means in terms of bike mods. and the after-market accessories.

I'm really surprised they haven't introduced something like a requirement that if a bike is more than say 20 degrees vertical then the power must be cut to the engine. Just to stop all those wheelie accidents of course
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[Rogerborg]

[Timmeh]

[Vracktal]

From the wording it looks like legacy bikes avoid the new rules regarding emissions and ABS... so far, anyway. Probably because there's no realistic way to bring them up to compliance without replacing pretty much everything.

At least i'm hoping that's the case. I can't even keep the Kwak from destroying itself on a daily basis without having to worry about keeping a bunch of emissions gubbins and ABS electronics working. Hopefully the exhaust decibel rules for older bikes are grandfathered from the existing laws otherise i'm fucked come next MOT o.O

[Val]

[Walloper]

125cc and under will be exempt from the new ABS rule purely because the folk who ride them do not contribute very much to biking as a whole. So any accident caused by incompetent braking will, in theory, thin out the gene pool a bit.
It is hoped that this will, over time, lead to an appreciable increase the overall skill level of the Biking Classes.




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[Rogerborg]

[Polarbear]

I am a MAG member and I would encourage everyone who rides bikes to join too. It might not be every riders cup of tea, and it might argue against things you are in agreement with, but as far as I can see it's our only voice against these regulations.

I probably won't be riding a bike much in 10 years time, but you youngsters who are just starting out better get involved before you are legislated into a BMW C1 with stabilisers.
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[Walloper]

[dandavidgreen...]

this is pointless cheers for putting up the prices of new bikes
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[grant965]

[Polarbear]

[CarlosCBR]

Not bothered by this at all. My new bike has ABS and works fantastically, just whack a couple fingers on the lever as hard as you want and bike stops safely in no time at all (yes, even when wet).

Alpha-9, i invite you to test mine
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[Tomzo47]

I can just see it as an accident waiting to happen, yes I have an ABS bike, and yes it is nice, but if every single bike someone rode had ABS, but then they bought or ride one without, they'll just slam the brakes on everytime and end up 50ft down the road on their arse. Yet more nannying from the Government, let us live you wankers!
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[Vracktal]

How does combined braking actually work anyway? I'm assuming from the name that if you pull the front brake handle it also brakes the rear wheel a little but what if you press the rear brake lever, does it brake the front wheel?

Also how does it know how much to brake the rear by? I can imagine lots of people hammering the front brake and then ending up on the blacktop confused why they fell down when the rear brake unexpectedly went on mid-corner.

In my mind combined braking sounds less safe than balancing them yourself, the rider will always have situational context so they know how much of the front/rear brake to use in each specific situation...

Plus I like locking the rear to slide my bike into the garage sideways and if the EU wants to stop me doing that they can fuck right off.

[daemonoid]

[TheSmiler]

Personally could cause more accidents in my opinion if it was forced onto 125's as well. Just imagine someone getting reliant on ABS then going to an older bike that doesn't have it. Tricky situation IMO.
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