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stranger12
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PostPosted: 06:34 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: chain lube and cleaning Reply with quote

Hi all,
My bike is a sym xs 125, I know i should maintain the chain and lubricate it. would i need something like wd40 for cleaning and then some sort of lubricant?

what lubricant and cleaner do you recommend

I am in the process of finding out if my chain is o-ring type

thanks
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PostPosted: 06:42 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Use paraffin to clean it and some engine oil to lubricate (used oil if you're feeling cheap!).
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PostPosted: 08:34 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

wd40 is great for loosening rust and getting dirt off. maybe while having your back wheel raised, turn the wheel and spray the chain with wd40 at the same time and turn it a few times. then probably grease or engine oil on the sprockets while your turning (if your using grease just apply it to the sprockets rather than the chain)
hope this helps! Smile
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PostPosted: 08:51 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old engine oil and a toothbrush once a week
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i use wd40 to clean it with a bruch and a rag. and use a good quality anti-fling chain lube. i use morris which iirc is about £8 a tin and lasts quite a while. doing this has allowed my chain to last somewhere in the region of 15000 miles and still has plenty of wear left in it
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
On centre stand, start bike, put in 5th gear let clutch out.


I'd stop doing that...

Speaking with experience and watching plenty of people lop their fingers off... go nowhere near the spinning chain... with anything Laughing

Do take a look... https://www.gixxer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=242261

Takes no effot to lube what you can see of the chain and roll forward 3 feet Wink
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PostPosted: 09:42 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
On centre stand, start bike, put in 5th gear let clutch out.

Get tin of chain cleaner and toothbrush, hold toothbrush on chain and spray fuckloads of chain cleaner on it. I use the wurth stuff cause thats what the bike shop had.

Bike back into 1st, spray chain lube into it thoroughly from all angles. Again i use the wurth dry lube for this bit. Then switch the bike off and allow the stuff to dry.

However it would seem im being very posh with it all Rolling Eyes

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Just be careful not to lose your fingers, lubing your chain in gear like that. Neutral
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow a lot of poor maintenance advice here! and also some very dangerous advice too!!!

First off, do NOT have the engine running and wheel turning while cleaning or lubricating a chain

https://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/811369-sprocket-bite/page__view__findpost__p__8373303 wrote:



Also, WD40 isn't a lubricant but water displacement, it's possible and likely that WD40 will be absorbed by the rubber o-rings and will swell up causing tight links.

Use Parafin or Chain cleaner if you do not wish to use Parafin, these evaporate off the chain quicker than they can be absorbed into rubber.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a paraffin convert, it shifts crud like you wouldn't believe and will cost you a lot less than going through tin after tin of spray solvents.

You might find it sold as "lamp oil" at your local DIY place.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
On centre stand, start bike, put in 5th gear let clutch out.
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Do not do this.
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PostPosted: 10:50 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paraffin in a bowl - old paintbrush - the rest is self explanatory.


Relube with engine/gear oil.
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PostPosted: 10:59 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the centre stand yes, engine running and in gear no. if your chain lube has a straw to ensure that you are far enough away to not get if something goes wrong maybe. but the thing wont stop if, or be careful becuase you are doing something risky, its just chew strait on through your fingers
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

One word, Scottoiler Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

_Iain_ wrote:
stuff


I'm not one for wishing harm on people, but I will laugh if I see a thread created by you about missing a finger or two due to this.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

lots of good advice and a bit of tragic Smile

while on earth do u want to risk loosing ur fingers even if it is few cms away from the chain just for cleaning a chain

i rather spin the wheel slowly and do spend more time

can you just wipe the cleaner over it using a cloth or something similar and then lube it

thanks to all,
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PostPosted: 19:28 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use white spirit to clean it... I've put the bike in first gear and used a toothbrush to slop shit loads on there... clean it every couple of weeks and oil it every few days... but that's just me.

I have heard that if you use oil it's better to heat it up then really coat the the chain that way it gets into all the bits and pieces then cools and thickens again
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PostPosted: 20:12 - 04 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

something not mentioned yet is to go for a 10 - 15 minute run before cleaning your chain, it heats up all the gunk/crap and makes it much more of a liquid, makes cleaning it easier.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 05 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only ever lost 1 toothbrush head cleaning the chain with the engine running etc
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 05 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't use spray lubes or cleaners. Waste of money imo and aren't anywhere near as effective as gear oil and paraffin.

I've used Wurth dry chain lube and tbh its absolute cack!
I was adjusting the chain nearly every week and surface rust was starting to appear quite soon after as well.
Cost about £8 for a 500ml can and you're lucky if you get 3 uses out of one.

Same goes for the Wurth brake and chain cleaner; £7 a can, get about 2 uses out of it, but was actually quite good at getting dirt off the chain.

Gear oil (£3.67 for 1L) and paraffin (£6.97 for 4L) FTW! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 06:46 - 05 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no centre stand... I have to move the bike. Effort Laughing
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PostPosted: 08:55 - 05 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stinger wrote:
Don't use spray lubes or cleaners. Waste of money imo and aren't anywhere near as effective as gear oil and paraffin.

I've used Wurth dry chain lube and tbh its absolute cack!
I was adjusting the chain nearly every week and surface rust was starting to appear quite soon after as well.
Cost about £8 for a 500ml can and you're lucky if you get 3 uses out of one.

Same goes for the Wurth brake and chain cleaner; £7 a can, get about 2 uses out of it, but was actually quite good at getting dirt off the chain.

Gear oil (£3.67 for 1L) and paraffin (£6.97 for 4L) FTW! Thumbs Up


dont use brake cleaner it will degrease the chain causing it to wear more quickly. and yeh the wurth chain stuff is crap. i have been using either silcoline chainlube or morris mlr fully synthentic anti fling lube for longer than i can remember, adjusting maybe once a month at most.

also if you are only getting 3 uses out of 500ml of chain lube you are applying way too much of it. like i said i do mine once a week and i still have nearly have a can left after 4 months, and yeh my cahin is more than 2 years old.

the key is finding what works for you, i would have thought that engine oil would have made loads of mess and will fling off over your nice clean wheel, but if your happy then engine oil is fine
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PostPosted: 19:51 - 05 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

20 minute ride to heat everything through then paraffin a bowl and 3-sided toothbrush thingy to clean, Muc-Off chain cleaner is very good, but it's very expensive compared to simple paraffin!

Have been using Wurth dry chain lube, but after seeing all the posts will maybe try engine oil.

I find it difficult to take the posts recommending putting the bike on a stand and then putting it in gear seriously, if you've put it on a stand, whats hard about turning the rear wheel by hand? Nobody can tell you not to do it, but don't recommend it to anybody else!
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