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 Posted: 15:56 - 31 Mar 2012 Post subject: Bridgestone BT-023's - weird rear tyre wear |
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Hi
Has anyone used these tyres for a decent amount of miles?
I bought my bike s/h with these fitted and they're not particularly worn, so I'd guess they're ~2000 miles old.
I think the guy that had the bike before did a fair bit of motorway / straight A road jaunting. Now I'm using the bike a bit more for twisties there's some oddness developing and I'm starting to really lose confidence in the bike
First off - when you look at the rear tyre when it's clean of grit etc you can see the different colour of the soft compound on the outer edge and the harder, darker compound in the middle. Fair enough - but when you run your finger across the cross section you can actually feel the 'ridge' in either side, and it's actually quite prominent
The bike feels skittish when leaned over a little not a lot. Lean through it and get the bike over nicely and it's fine, but then as you accelerate out the other side of a bend if you put the power on with the bike just a little off upright you can feel it get a wobble on . Really not keen on that, not keen at all.
It's kind of like there's plenty of grip, but it just feels totally weird, like the wheel is moving side to side through the corner rather than running clean.
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Tyres are squared off - ditch them and get some new ones.
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I have seen that happen to a pair of 023's before. They do seem to square quite badly on certain bikes for some reason! ( front and back) ____________________ Suzuki GT250 x7------- Fazer 600------CB250RS------Aprilia Rally 70----- Bandit 600
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arry wrote: | Hi
Has anyone used these tyres for a decent amount of miles?
I bought my bike s/h with these fitted and they're not particularly worn, so I'd guess they're ~2000 miles old.
I think the guy that had the bike before did a fair bit of motorway / straight A road jaunting. Now I'm using the bike a bit more for twisties there's some oddness developing and I'm starting to really lose confidence in the bike
First off - when you look at the rear tyre when it's clean of grit etc you can see the different colour of the soft compound on the outer edge and the harder, darker compound in the middle. Fair enough - but when you run your finger across the cross section you can actually feel the 'ridge' in either side, and it's actually quite prominent
The bike feels skittish when leaned over a little not a lot. Lean through it and get the bike over nicely and it's fine, but then as you accelerate out the other side of a bend if you put the power on with the bike just a little off upright you can feel it get a wobble on  . Really not keen on that, not keen at all.
It's kind of like there's plenty of grip, but it just feels totally weird, like the wheel is moving side to side through the corner rather than running clean.
Should I just ditch 'em?  |
It could also be the previous bloke panic braking hard into bends and causing flat spots as well as general squaring off, BT-023's are very well rated but if you want to try something different try the new S20's from Bridgestone.
Wicked grippy tyre, fast warmup and so far good in the wet too. It depends on what you want from a tyre though, BT-023 is their sport touring tyre which, while grippy enough, is designed for higher mileage than more sport biased rubber.
Other worth looking at in this genre are Metzeler M5 Interacts and Dunlop Sportsmarts, if you want sport touring for mileage you can look at Roadsmart 2 or the Z8 Interacts from the same guys but really what you have is a good tyre already.
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Any chance the centres are 'stepped' at the compound join because the last owner overinflated the tyres - running the centres over emphasised, ran them like a pussy (straight lines, M/ways and low lean angles on corners) then you are running them normal pressures which puts them back into the right shape?
Cant think of any reason why the soft edges are not worn while the centres are.
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Wet grip mainly, and a couple about wear rates. Couple of people only got around 5k out of them, but that obviously depends on riding style and your right hand!  ____________________ Suzuki SV650S '04 (09/08-02/11), Triumph Tiger 1050 '07 (02/11 - current).
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023's are grippy, confidence inspiring tyres that work well in all conditions...
..but...
they wear too damn quickly for my liking and certainly too fast for serious commuter use. I went back to 021s which, although inferior, lasted a while longer and are by no means a *crappy* tyre. ____________________ NSR125RR - ZXR750H1 - ZX9R E1 - GSF600S - GSF600SK3 - VFR400-NC30 - SV1000N - ST1100-R - CBR900RR-R - GSF1200SK5 - GSF600SK1 - VFR1200FA - GSXR1000K2 - ZZR1400 D8F
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