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Posted: 23:48 - 17 Apr 2012 Post subject: |
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Depending on the age of the bike, could a faulty side stand cutout switch be to blame?
I know on my Fazer, if the side stand is down and I go to put it into 1st gear from neutral, the engine will cut out. This is the switch working correctly.
If it developed a fault it either wouldn't cut the engine, or it would sense that the stand was down, even if it wasn't.
The only other thing I can think, is what happened to my friend on his Suzuki GZ125. The switch worked fine, but the spring that tensions the side stand and holds it in the 'up' position wasn't quite strong enough anymore, so the stand wouldn't release the switch all the way, which meant that it caused the bike to stall on pretty much every rideout and pretty much all the time. ____________________ Past Bikes: '97 CG125, '91 GPZ500S, '01 FZS600, '07 S/Triple, '99 ZX9R, '82 GP125, '83 GP100, '03 SV1000S, '98 ZX6R
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mike brown you bollocking bastard beating me to it
your comment wassnt there when i startewd mine lol ____________________ i dumped my girlfriend the other day! she wouldnt act out one of my fantasy's. all i wanted her to do was come home from work, catch me fucking her sister and join in!!! miserable bitch!
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needed to ask,
prehaps you should check the gear box oil, if you havent done anything with it since the manufacturer filled it, what bike is it?
give us a better idea of what we are dealing with here, is there any clunk or 'learch when selecting 1st for the first time? ____________________ i dumped my girlfriend the other day! she wouldnt act out one of my fantasy's. all i wanted her to do was come home from work, catch me fucking her sister and join in!!! miserable bitch!
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guile wrote: | cloric_tzr wrote: | what bike is it?
give us a better idea of what we are dealing with here, is there any clunk or 'learch when selecting 1st for the first time? |
If it's a faulty stand switch, why would it let me ride away when restarting the bike? |
You know what mate, I'm not sure. We could never figure this out on my friends GZ125 either :/ it'd let him restart the bike and ride fine and then it'd start playing up again. It'd then play up if he left it and went to start it. No idea why to be honest ____________________ Past Bikes: '97 CG125, '91 GPZ500S, '01 FZS600, '07 S/Triple, '99 ZX9R, '82 GP125, '83 GP100, '03 SV1000S, '98 ZX6R
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its a wet clutch, meaning its lubricated with gearbox oil, there should be a window on the side near the bottom off the gearbox casing (check near your gear lever) or on the other side at the same height, or look for a cap near there take it out it may have a dipstik onit to indicate oil level, sounds to me like the plates are sticking as someone has already said may be an idea to change the gearbox oil completly rather than top up as you dont know what oil the manufacturer uses (rule of thumb never mix difrent brand fluids of any type) safest way
10 min job there will be a sump bolt on the bottom of the gear box dont forget let the bike drain standing upright then lean it one way for 5 mins then the other for another for 5 makes sure all old oil out, dont forget to put the sump bolt back in before toping up done that before mess ewverywere. ____________________ i dumped my girlfriend the other day! she wouldnt act out one of my fantasy's. all i wanted her to do was come home from work, catch me fucking her sister and join in!!! miserable bitch!
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oh yh check your engine oil too sounds like youve used it for a year without checking anything dont want to run out and seize it now do you? ____________________ i dumped my girlfriend the other day! she wouldnt act out one of my fantasy's. all i wanted her to do was come home from work, catch me fucking her sister and join in!!! miserable bitch!
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Posted: 09:39 - 18 Apr 2012 Post subject: |
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Faulty sidestand switch as others have said.
try riding off with you sat on the bike and side stand UP.
If you have a multimeter you can test the switch. ____________________ www.Mailorderrepairs.co.uk We service your Carburetor's, Calipers & Suspension for less Also Bike repairs undertaken. |
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why would a faulty side stand switch cause only one stall, that makes little to no sense.
OP push your bike 3 ft with the engine off, in gear, clutch in and report back. If it's hard initially and then fine, it's as Ariel says. ____________________ Previous: GSF600, FZR600 x2, ZXR750, XT600 Tenere, CB125, CZ125, ETZ 250, ER5, CCM R30, DRZ400, RF600x4, RF900x2, GS500, VTR1000F, 640 SMC, CB250 NIGHTHAWK, GT550x3, GPX750 TE610, CB500, X11x2, SV650, ZING 125, TL1000R,CB250 Superdream, CBR1100XX |
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pyroforlife wrote: | why would a faulty side stand switch cause only one stall, that makes little to no sense.
OP push your bike 3 ft with the engine off, in gear, clutch in and report back. If it's hard initially and then fine, it's as Ariel says. |
It was just my two pennies worth based on what my friends bike had when the switch was at fault there.
Admittedly, not the actual switch that was broken, but the stand wasn't retracting properly which made the switch 'not work'. We started by swapping the switch and nothing changed...then we did a little more digging with the stand position, as we figured out it was stand related and figured out what the actual fault was ____________________ Past Bikes: '97 CG125, '91 GPZ500S, '01 FZS600, '07 S/Triple, '99 ZX9R, '82 GP125, '83 GP100, '03 SV1000S, '98 ZX6R
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Posted: 20:18 - 19 Apr 2012 Post subject: |
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Hi
When my old kmx did this, it was definitely due to sticking clutch plates.
It was always noticeable first thing in the morning or if it was parked anywhere for several hours.
I was able to rule out the sidestand switch......it didn't have one
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Posted: 10:46 - 20 Apr 2012 Post subject: clutch plates |
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hi dude,
yeap, sounds like sticky clutch plates.
you say you have not check/changed g/box oil, so nows the time i think.
some pics for the site would be good etc.
if you have centre stand, then start on this and leave to warm up a bit, holding the clutch in and blipping the throttle is good also, to free off the plates.
not too much g/box oil in there?? of the correct grade?? |
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Posted: 15:13 - 20 Apr 2012 Post subject: Re: clutch plates |
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bikenut wrote: | yeap, sounds like sticky clutch plates.
you say you have not check/changed g/box oil, so nows the time i think.
some pics for the site would be good etc.
if you have centre stand, then start on this and leave to warm up a bit, holding the clutch in and blipping the throttle is good also, to free off the plates.
not too much g/box oil in there?? of the correct grade?? |
Worth checking oil level and to be honest, change it whilst you're there anyway, even if thast is not the problem.
Also, does this bike use seperate gear oil? I always thought these Derbi's were 4-strokes and the engine oil also does the clutch and gearbox? ____________________ Past Bikes: '97 CG125, '91 GPZ500S, '01 FZS600, '07 S/Triple, '99 ZX9R, '82 GP125, '83 GP100, '03 SV1000S, '98 ZX6R
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Old Thread Alert!
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