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ginny
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Pre-2000 Honda (?) choices for first bike. Which suits me? Reply with quote

I do tend to ramble on... It is another first big bike thread, but at least I kind of know what I want...

This forum has been invaluable so far, just after some more direct advice! 

So, as the title suggests, I'm at the stage where I am looking a start considering a big bike. I'm pretty set on Hondas, because I want a properly bulletproof build. Dont like the look of SV's, bandits nice but heavy/not as reliable? I am also keen to keep maintenance and running costs low. Im no mechanic, but happy to learn- just dont want a bike that needs work before i can get on and ride! Being my first bike, I am considering 400-600cc. 

A Hornet is more than I want currently, more power than I would use, along with less tank range and higher insurance cost. Fuel economy is more important to me than going 100mph+, but itd be nice if it were pretty nippy to get up to speed (I wont be speeding often, unless I have to keep up with my mate, I'm a pretty sensible guy). Might look at changing sprocket set (?) for more acceleration and less top end- is this practical? 

 I love the look naked look and would be perfectly happy with a 'vanilla' cb4/5/600, but am particularly taken by the cb400 superfour and the cb1, styling wise at least. 

I am looking for honest opinions about the cb/cbf range and what size is most applicable to me. Are the 4s underpowered? If I'm looking at a 4 should I just skip to a 500, or 6?  In terms of preferences, I would want a fairly good condition bike that runs well, less than 40k miles and less than £1000. Pre-2000 obviously given my price. Ive no me mechanical knowledge, but happy to learn basics such as brakes, carbs etc- just dont want a bike that needs work before i can get on and ride! I would look to keep it for a year or two, minimum.  

The bike would be used as a most- weather runabout ( I have a car but don't want to use it), will have to cope with some motorway journeys of up to an hour on occasion, and once my mate (brand new cbr600- git!) gets back from afghan I'm hoping to do a bit of touring/ camping trip to France etc with him. So basically a cheap nippy commuter that won't suck on a trip to France etc. 

Thanks all... 
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sound like you want a cb500 loads about and bullet proof ..Really good bikes Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to have a 1990's Honda CB 400 Superfour, it wasn't as good as the more modern V-Tec version but it was dead easy to ride and the low seat height probably makes it a good choice for women.
I wouldn't say it is underpowered, it's just a 400cc bike that feels like a 400cc bike.
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PostPosted: 19:55 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

sidewinder wrote:
Sound like you want a cb500 loads about and bullet proof ..Really good bikes Thumbs Up


Agreed, it does sound like you are describing my bike OP Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Hi bud, have wee look at the 650 shaft drive Deauville, downside is, it is a wee bit heavy, upside, no chains or sprockets to worry about, good alround torque, built in panniers, good all weather protection, will sit allday around 70 - 80 with out you knowing, and good fuel econemy, 50ish mpg ( 200ish mile to the tank ) and very comfy even for a pillion for long hauls, I own one, love it, I got her up to 120mph once but my bottle went, am quite happy at 80 - 90, anyway maybe not what your looking for but thought I would give you an alternative idea, good hunting and stay safe out there Thumbs Up
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ginny
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 30 Apr 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninja_butler wrote:
low seat height probably makes it a good choice for women.
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Good to know, if I ever decide to have a sex change haha. The 'Ginny' is misleading admittedly!

Yeah I had pretty much set my mind on the 500 prior to finding a rather sexy superfour on eBay.

Bambi: thanks for the reply, you have piqued my interest!

The deauville is not something I had considered... But it seems to sell itself on comfort and practicality, both of which are priorities for me. Looks nice enough and has about as much bhp as a 4/500, just more weight maybe. It's definitely something I am strongly considering... Read a couple of reviews and it seems bulletproof, what are the advantages of shaft drive?
Anything I should look out for if buying one used? And what kind of price can be expected?

I would only be concerned that I wouldn't be able to enjoy twisties quite as much, but I guess its nowhere near a cruiser, and my standard choice of cb500 aint no sports bike... Do you still have fun on yours?

Thanks for your help Everyone Smile
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm leaning towards a CB500 more and more after having my heart set on an SV650.

Had a look at a few youtube videos, it goes fast enough for the roads, 0-60 in 5 seconds and is apparently reliable as.

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The 499 cc parallel twin DOHC engine was designed, according to Honda engineers, to last for 300,000 km.


Seems like that'd make buying one a doddle then. Just have to worry about consumables etc.

The looks are good as well IMO, almost like a grown up CG125.

Anyone have any tips on what to look out for on used CB500's?
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PostPosted: 06:08 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/skiptalker/kevs%20bikes/DSCN2462.jpg

tried all the cb range now on a cb1000 big one nice bike but big i am 6 ft and its tough for me to move it about but when shes out on the road wow a great ride.
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PostPosted: 07:46 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rusted exhaust system, rusted rear shocks, try to get a later model with discs front and rear, and they put brembo calipers on later too IIRC.

More advice here: https://cb500.highbb.com/t122-buying-what-to-look-for

really helpful forum, I would recommend a trip over there Thumbs Up

As we're whoring our bikes:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/37572785/DSC07112.JPG
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Hi Ginny, yes I have fun on mine, twistys shouldnt be a problem just take her down to 4th or 3rd and away you'll rocket, ( I'm a more sedate rider these days so tend to take it easy, albeit I have my moments ) the advantages of a shaft drive is no messing about with nchains and sprockets, cleaning, lubrication, tensioning, snaping, teeeth wear on sprocket ect, ect, price depends on you, 10 -12 year olds your looking at around £1000 - £1500, a good 4 year old around £3000 - -£4000, 2/3 year old £4000,( price depends on where you are ) the new style Deauville is a 700, it as abs brake system, it also has a through passage between panniers giving you extra space, enough to store a tent, it also looks alot smarter, the things to look out for is the same as any bike, clean looked after, not abused, look for cracks ect on the fairing body work, test ride and listen to see if the shaft is tight and NOT clunking when rolling on/off throttle, like every other bike it has its quirks but he the world aint perfect either ha ha, just do some reaserch, and dont be in a rush to buy, take your time and think it over, some times the head and heart get a bit mixed up and confused, hence a rash decision, good luck and stay loose and safe, if you need any more info get in touch and I'll try my best Thumbs Up P.S I own a 2000 reg and havent had any problems.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Re: Pre-2000 Honda (?) choices for first bike. Which suits m Reply with quote

ginny wrote:
I am looking for honest opinions about the cb/cbf range and what size is most applicable to me. Are the 4s underpowered? If I'm looking at a 4 should I just skip to a 500, or 6?  In terms of preferences, I would want a fairly good condition bike that runs well, less than 40k miles and less than £1000. Pre-2000 obviously given my price. Ive no me mechanical knowledge, but happy to learn basics such as brakes, carbs etc- just dont want a bike that needs work before i can get on and ride! I would look to keep it for a year or two, minimum.  

The bike would be used as a most- weather runabout ( I have a car but don't want to use it), will have to cope with some motorway journeys of up to an hour on occasion, and once my mate (brand new cbr600- git!) gets back from afghan I'm hoping to do a bit of touring/ camping trip to France etc with him. So basically a cheap nippy commuter that won't suck on a trip to France etc. 

Thanks all... 


I highly rate the CB1, I've had between 40-45 bikes in the last 10 years and the CB1 I had for the longest period. Why? Because it was cheap to buy and run, the engine was stunning (yes it doesnt make much power but it makes a glorious noise and is great to cane). Crappy fuel tank range so guess that shoots your idea down in flames.

I have a CB500 for sale for £800, 2001 model, theyre good bikes which are simply "OK". Bullet proof, great mpg but not a very inspiring ride to the experienced. Great for starting out though. PM me if you're interested.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 01 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikeyg143 wrote:
Rusted exhaust system, rusted rear shocks, try to get a later model with discs front and rear, and they put brembo calipers on later too IIRC.

More advice here: https://cb500.highbb.com/t122-buying-what-to-look-for


Thanks a lot for the link. Looks like the usual really. Smile
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