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EazyDuz
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: What to look for when buying a battery? Reply with quote

They seem to range from £20 to £60 for my bike.
Most of them dont quote cold cranking amps. Also which design is the best, some are dry acid and others are different. Any particular brands?
Battery dimensions for mine must be up to (LxWxH)†: 135 x 80 x 160 (mm)

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want an awesome battery that holds its charge and give you extra cold cranking amps then it has to be MotoBatt. I've got them on all of my bikes except the Street, but I'm going to replace the Street one with a MotoBatt as soon as I can afford it because the Street battery is well past its best.

I left the FZR with its MotoBatt battery over the winter and it fired up first time a couple of weeks ago. Fully charged.
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a MottoBat in my Virago, the start always seems nice and strong.
Got mine from Wemoto, you might find a cheaper one somewhere else.
Keep in mind, with these batteries, you don't need to buy acid or charge them first.
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you decide to invest in a Gel type battery (probably the most expensive) then two things I know to note:

1. Make sure your Accumate/Optimate/whatever charger can handle gel types. Older ones can't and they're funny (as in can knacker) if wrong current amount used.

2. If a Gel battery is allowed to get flat then it's knackered. These cannot be recovered as might be the case from a lead/acid type.

Apart from that always top up with acid first and charge fully before use. Leave the top off. If you buy mail order/internet sometimes they're funny about sending acid out with battery. Others already come packaged with acid. So worth checking when ordering.

Do not use a car charger to charge the battery. Get a bike specific one or one with a bike option. Car chargers provide too many amps that can damage the cells in the battery.

After first charge check acid level and top up as needed. You can top up this time with any remaining acid. Subsequent to ups use distilled water.

Obviously if sealed battery then don't need to faff about with acid so just charge fully and use.

Voltage on a multimeter on newly charged battery should high 12v to 13v.

As to type if funds allow get a sealed. Less hassle. If you're feeling rich get a gel. Otherwise an old fashioned lead/acid one does the job.

Apology if above is preaching to the choir but might be useful for anyone who's not done it before.

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PostPosted: 12:19 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dpends on how long you leave her stood collecting cobwebs.
Not sure what type the MotoBatt's are but if she's going to not get used for long periods then the Absorbed Glass Mat/Gel type batteries would definitely be worth the extra money, especially if you're not likely to implement a regular charge/discharge routine
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just use a 500ma trickle charger, are these safe with gel batteries>?
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PostPosted: 12:26 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motobatt is Absorbed Glass Matt.
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
I just use a 500ma trickle charger, are these safe with gel batteries>?

IIRC gel batteries require an initial fast charge up to I think about 80% capacity (that figure may be wrong but you get the idea). Then need to switch to a lower standby charge. The charger should be able to detect the change and switch automatically. Charger should also stop and then cycle checks when battery full. Keeping on a fast charge will damage the gel battery.

Hope that makes it as clear as mid. Google may or may not be your friend in finding a clear explanation.

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PostPosted: 12:44 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

map wrote:
EazyDuz wrote:
I just use a 500ma trickle charger, are these safe with gel batteries>?

IIRC gel batteries require an initial fast charge up to I think about 80% capacity (that figure may be wrong but you get the idea). Then need to switch to a lower standby charge. The charger should be able to detect the change and switch automatically. Charger should also stop and then cycle checks when battery full. Keeping on a fast charge will damage the gel battery.

Hope that makes it as clear as mid. Google may or may not be your friend in finding a clear explanation.

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Well i only have a basic trickle charger, its literally a big plug with a tamiya connector on the end of a wire, does the job on my current dying battery. The motobatt on ebay says it doesnt need an initial charge. What im asking is when it gets a bit lower over winter, can i leave it on trickle charge when im not using the bike?
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PostPosted: 12:45 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:

Well i only have a basic trickle charger, its literally a big plug with a tamiya connector on the end of a wire, does the job on my current dying battery. The motobatt on ebay says it doesnt need an initial charge. What im asking is when it gets a bit lower over winter, can i leave it on trickle charge when im not using the bike?


The MotoBatt is absorbed Glass Matt, not Gel, so I don't think it is an issue.
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
EazyDuz wrote:

Well i only have a basic trickle charger, its literally a big plug with a tamiya connector on the end of a wire, does the job on my current dying battery. The motobatt on ebay says it doesnt need an initial charge. What im asking is when it gets a bit lower over winter, can i leave it on trickle charge when im not using the bike?


The MotoBatt is absorbed Glass Matt, not Gel, so I don't think it is an issue.


is that better than gel?
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PostPosted: 12:50 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Re: What to look for when buying a battery? Reply with quote

EazyDuz wrote:
Also which design is the best

well, they all have their positives and negatives...



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PostPosted: 13:10 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another vote for Motobatt here.
Do a search on here, there was a very informative thread.
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

so just to confirm a motobatt will be fine with a trickle charger yes?
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 28 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I look for:

1. Is it the right size?
2. Does it say "Motobatt" on it?
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PostPosted: 13:44 - 30 Jun 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

went with the Motobatt, it was only £40 delivered, should be here mon/tues, bet my reg/rec and stator will thank me for it lol.
I was just getting concerned because when the bikes cold, you dont get much of a chance to start it before it kills the batt.
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