new v old

[flumpy7]

Was at Poole quay again tonight, and i realised something. I dont want a new bike!

For years i've felt like i miss out cause i cant afford to buy brand new or even less than 5 years old, but tonight i realised that i spent most of my time admiring older models. Not just classics but bikes of 5 years old +. There is something more interesting about a well maintained, loved, and modded old bike than a brand new machine. I cant really explain it but just thought i'd say.

And before you all start saying "bet you wouldnt be saying that if you had the cash to buy a new bike" thats probably true. But i have a new sense of freedom and excitment about bikes today cause i realised that spending alot isn't necessarily gonna fulfill my biking dreams and that there are so many really nice old bikes out there within my reach.

Someone give me a cool story bro.

PS When hayabusas get real cheap, thats my next buy
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2012 Sinnis apache

[Derivative]

Genuinely, I'd have to be really well off to consider buying a new (non budget) bike.

We're talking, house paid off, pension topped up, emergency fund full, and the rest.

I just couldn't deal with losing £1000+ in depreciation first year and the pain of dropping it, I'd be scared to go out unless it was beaming sunshine.

Cars, maybe, I could see myself going a fair few years without an accident in a car. And sitting inside it, much more important that you're the only owner.

[Beelzebob]

[flumpy7]

[Sako]

well there's the saying "don't trade it, upgrade it"

[Fairies attack]

Still remember being at Willingham Woods a few years ago and seeing a bloke wobble off on Brand new Gixxer thou. He had been telling people allnight it had just come out the show room.

He dropped it at the Louth side entrance and was rammed by his mate on another brand new duke.

Nearly died laughing watching them try pick them up.
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Ariel Badger said - Ever tried Chinese preserved (100 year) eggs? Man are they rank, like eating fart flavoured snot.

[L-Jam]

You're talking fucking facts.

Mind you, I wouldn't want a bike older than mine either, because I like the idea of how technologically advanced mine is.

I just don't see how the newer Gixxer 750s could be that much better than mine.

Mind you, I wouldn't turn down a new Duke!
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Poole Quay is always good for a nice nosey about!

I am in agreement, that slightly older bikes have something about them. You get the feeling their owners like them, maintain them etc, where as a lot of new bikes could be owned by idiots with too much money. Obviously this isn't really true, but i'm sure most 50 year olds on a mid life crisis are more likely to lay down cash on a new R1.

Oh and my bike seems to get as much attention down there/everywhere as the newest bikes, and its getting on 13 years old now
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[MarJay]

The only decent bike of the last 5 years has really been the Street Triple. Even then its ugly and weirdly proportioned.

Part of me wants an old air cooled GPz550 with a darth vader fairing...
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[pinkyfloyd]

I prefer much older bikes. Mine is a 1999 model and its basic. Before that I had a 1991 model bike and it was even more basic. Real bikes.

You find with the newer bikes, when something goes wrong they have to plug it into a computer at stupid cost just so the mechanic can tell you the bikes knackered, which you already knew because you are in there getting your wallet raped.
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[ninja_butler]

When I think of all the "if I won the lottery" bikes I would like to own, if I bought ten, seven or eight of them would be modern classics from the 80's and 90's.

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[Kris]

I've only owned a brand new bike once after buying my first on credit. Three weeks later I threw it down the road smashing it to fuck.

I do tend to take pride in ownership but I really can't justify spending £10k I haven't got on a brand new bike to either use as my toy (sitting in the garage 300 days a year) or as my daily hack (15k hard miles a year and parked in the street).

WTF is the point unless it is truly disposable cash?

Nope, rather have a shitter to get to work and back on and a cool 90's superbike to blast on sunny days and nice evenings. My early Fireblade is perfect for that so far.
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[Suntan Sid]

I've only ever had one brand new bike, YAM 350 YPVS!
I couldn't afford to buy a new one anyway.
I've got five bikes, if you added up their resale value it still wouldn't be enough to buy anything new.

I've got two 23 year olds, one 20 year old and two 12 year olds.
The 20 year old gets the most use.

Not a single fuel injector in sight!
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[Blau Zedong]

No interest in modern bikes whatsoever, although I'm glad things like the S1000RR and Panigale exist. For the amount I use it and the fact that I insist on home servicing, my shitty old GSXR is perfect. In 5 years it's had two tyres, a brake rebuild and two services, hence owes me fuck all. The only things I would replace it with would be a Mk1 Fireblade or a GSXR1100K, because the lack of any midrange whatsoever is a bit annoying. Then again I might just keep it, fit the 750L fairing and headlights I have in the loft, spray it in period Minolta endurance colours and laugh at all those who owe 10k on finance.
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18:54:48 Rob Fzs: jews don't give away stuff for free

18:54:59 Rob Fzs: unless its their clothes/ hair/ golden teeth

[MarJay]

[mikester]

[Blau Zedong]

[Kris]

[MarJay]

[Rogerborg]

[Suntan Sid]

[stevo as b4]

Now im over 30, and combined with the fact that pretty much all my mates have left biking for various reasons, and also because i've not had a bike on the road for 5years this summer, i have no real interest in new, current and advanced modern bikes.

I used to follow biking developments closely and up to about 05/06 i thought that litre sports bikes were still good and real world usable for example. Now you have all these bikes that won't sell without ABS or traction control, anti wheelie systems, launch control and 5 different switchable ECU maps etc.

You've got 1litre engines that rev and have to be revved like a 600cc of 5years ago, to access the usable and useful drive, and have little midrange or roll on performance. They have 190-200bhp peak figures and over 1/2 of that amount is wasted in a road bike engine.

Can you imagine how much better it would feel to have a new Fireblade etc with a deliberate 100bhp and that has been tuned to deliver exceptional low-midrange torque and have instant power where you need it at road sensible speeds.

I'm well out of touch with modern bikes and i know some of you have relavent experience of these tech laden race biased machines, but can a BMW S1000R be as good a road bike as say a brand new 02 R1 was? i really don't think so personally!

As for me, im another person into the older bike scene these days, i always was really! I read CMM and Practical sportsbike now, instead of PB etc.

Also i still belive that there is loads of potential for improvement and modification to to older bikes. For example for the last 20year's 1000cc road bike engines have been bloody quick, but it's the tyres, braking performance and handling that has really been the only true advances since the mid 90's onwards really.

I bet you could do far far more to improve say a ZX9R C1 than you could to a new ZX10R if you had the same cash to spend.

Lastly having grew up with early 90's bikes, i have realised how rare and now sought after they are becoming and the prices some machines are now attracting. Basically if you liked any particular late 80's to mid 90's bike and wanted to get another one, now is the time as it's going to soon be very difficult and expensive to get some of these bikes back in your life.

[Blau Zedong]

I could afford to go and get finance this afternoon on a new superbike, but i'd be a cunt if i did.
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18:54:48 Rob Fzs: jews don't give away stuff for free

18:54:59 Rob Fzs: unless its their clothes/ hair/ golden teeth

[Tenko]

Me too - but it'd be divorce and rightly so.

I'll stick to my old bikes until I need a new one. Until then... its breakdowns & skinned knuckles.