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Gazz
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: What are the legalities of towing a bike with a towrope? Reply with quote

Always wondered about this, but always when I am away from a computer so I cannot post on here.


Hypothetical situation: you run out of petrol for example.

You, the bike, and all the paperwork are all fine, etc and so will the car be that is towing you.

So would it be ok for a car or another bike to tow a broken down bike?


*I am sure I seen this on TV before (cannot remember where though) but not sure if it was a bike being towed by a car or by another bike.* The technique used was to wrap the towrope ONCE around the handlebars and hold it in place by your hand then if anything goes tits-up the rope comes away easily enough.
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Many years ago I was told it was legal to tow a bike with another bike, but not tow a bike with a car like that.

However I have seen nothing to back that up

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

This would be insanely dangerous. Even if you use the technique you say, it something does go wrong, it will be too late.
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant imagine it being very stable. although could be wrong, might be like wake boarding.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wish I could remember where I seen it now.

I am almost certain it was a dirt-bike that was being towed, by cannot remember anything else about the situation, etc.
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PostPosted: 20:20 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Re: What are the legalities of towing a bike with a towrope? Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Many years ago I was told it was legal to tow a bike with another bike, but not tow a bike with a car like that.

However I have seen nothing to back that up


That was exact advice I was given, and I do recall seeing something in print, somewhere, but may have been an ancient copy of Motorcycle & Motorcycle Mechanics from 1979 or something!

Gazz wrote:
The technique used was to wrap the towrope ONCE around the handlebars and hold it in place by your hand then if anything goes tits-up the rope comes away easily enough.


Seen it, done it. Both ends of the rope. It works.

Was a bit precariouse dragging a TZ250 framed honda 500/4 race bike with total loss ignition, and 14:1 pistons & yoshi cam up to 35mph needed to get the charge to stay in the pots long enough to catch fire, with an XT500 'tractor' though.... tow rope had to go round grab-rail that was about three foot above the TZ's handlebars.....

XT's rather liked wheeleing to start with, so imagine trying to hold the front wheel down, while accelerating yo to 40mph, then giving hands up signal that race-ace can drop the clutch, and getting it back on bars and CHUKING yourself over the handle-bars in anticipation of the YANK on the back, as that Honda clutch is dumped and you are hit by the braking of that 14:1 compression ratio and gearing trying to turn the crank 5Krpm to stand a chance of starting!

ESPECIALLY when 'Race-Ace' is LOATH to let go the rope, until his motor's barked!

HAD to do that RATHER A LOT.... engine was rebuilt with all these tuning goodies, and trying to find 'optimum' ignition advance, meant lots of 'test-starts'.

Multiplied by many start failures, because the tit left the kill switch in the 'on' position flattening the total loss battery, while changing timing, OR remembered to switch it 'off' but forgot to turn it back 'On'!

Oh, infamouse one was when battery was taken off after starts, 'spare' was put on, for re-starts, but rider's 'mate' came along and 'helped' swapping ;flat' battery BACK on for the charged one!

That vexed us for a long time. Missed an entire practice session becouse of that one!
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bubbs wrote:
Cant imagine it being very stable. although could be wrong, might be like wake boarding.


It is unstable and unpleasant. Not something I would chose to day again.

Years ago someone I knew had a 420 KTM motocross bike. About the only way to start that was to get the spark plug hot with a blow torch and then tow start it with a car.

All the best

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PostPosted: 20:29 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Years ago someone I knew had a 420 KTM motocross bike. About the only way to start that was to get the spark plug hot with a blow torch and then tow start it with a car.

THAT sounds rather familiar.....
Done that n'all.
did KayTee have:
a) an open and abrevuated pipe with no tail pipe?
b) tail pipe but no packing / flame trap
c) had been dropped on tail-pipe side EVER SO slightly bending pipe bracket.... over-size knobly every so inperceptably carving an arced flap out of the inside of the pipe, that looked like nothing more than a rub or mud mark in the alli?
Guess how long it took us to discover option c)!

Alternatively; duel hole head? Seem to recall that some of those compers had twin spark-plug holes; centre one had the 'race' grade plug in it, second hole could EITHER have a decompressor, or a second 'softer' grade 'starting' spark-plug, and you braved swapping them after warm up!
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PostPosted: 20:31 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably why you shouldn't do it click Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:35 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even more reason not to:

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PostPosted: 20:44 - 14 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teflon-Mike wrote:
Alternatively; duel hole head? Seem to recall that some of those compers had twin spark-plug holes; centre one had the 'race' grade plug in it, second hole could EITHER have a decompressor, or a second 'softer' grade 'starting' spark-plug, and you braved swapping them after warm up!


Afraid it was 25 years ago and I have long forgotten. If I remember rightly the bike had come free with a trailer.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tow'd a moped behind my car. Well, it was MY moped AND car!! My friend was using it, blew it up, and couldnt get it the 5ish miles home. Towrope and some recovery strobes, 35mph down the busiest Aroad i could find Laughing All was fine, apart from a dead dear passing under the car, then under him Laughing
EDIT: Other problems included, it was dark and the moped had no lights as they were ran straight from the engine, so he dragged the rear brake the WHOLE WAY HOME. Also, i forgot and gave it a full bore launch from some traffic lights, then quickly remembered he was hanging on for dear life Laughing
Was stable though. Would have been happy at 60.
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairies attack wrote:
Ther is a thread on here from about 4 years ago when I towed my bothers GPZ305 home with a CB125, we didn't have rope so used locks and stuff to attach them. He fell off about 1/4mile from home, and my little CB dragged his bike right to the front gate before I noticed he was missing, was pretty funny at the time.


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PostPosted: 08:21 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazz wrote:
Wish I could remember where I seen it now.


Charlie Boorman, on Charlie Boorman Is Amazed By Every Single Thing On The Way From Sydney To Tokyo, I Mean Wow, Just Look At That Amazing Shit, Isn't It All Totally Amazing?

I'm pretty sure that's what it was called.
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PostPosted: 09:01 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done it lots of times but still not sure of the legality. Managed to melt an Aprilia RS50 piston using it to tow an H100 Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

Many years ago I was told it was legal to tow a bike with another bike, but not tow a bike with a car like that.

However I have seen nothing to back that up

All the best

Keith


Oddly enough, and I am not disputing the all knowing Keith but a long time ago when Pinky was a little whippersnapper his RSX100 broke down (as they do) and as I was in the phone box (they existed before mobile phones) on the phone to mother dearest the rozzers pulled over. I got off the phone and ended up getting a tow home by the police. They were in their car and the rope was around the headstock of the bike.
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PostPosted: 15:41 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

pinkyfloyd wrote:
Oddly enough, and I am not disputing the all knowing Keith but a long time ago when Pinky was a little whippersnapper his RSX100 broke down (as they do) and as I was in the phone box (they existed before mobile phones) on the phone to mother dearest the rozzers pulled over. I got off the phone and ended up getting a tow home by the police. They were in their car and the rope was around the headstock of the bike.


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PostPosted: 16:03 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going wrote:
You've been watching to many Disney Cartoons, phone boxes are just fairy tails. Unless you was in a Dial-a-hooker box Very Happy


Off topic but intreguing idea..... where does Clarke-Kent clamber into his super-Man costume now, eh?

And if Dr Who turned up in the high-street, do you think you would have a queue of cross legged people all wavering muttering that they cant find the panel to put their money in, and 'is it out of order'?
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fairies attack wrote:
Ther is a thread on here from about 4 years ago when I towed my bothers GPZ305 home with a CB125, we didn't have rope so used locks and stuff to attach them. He fell off about 1/4mile from home, and my little CB dragged his bike right to the front gate before I noticed he was missing, was pretty funny at the time.


pretty sure you would notice. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 18:09 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 03 I was towed 20miles on my shoddy 50cc cruiser by my mate on his RS50. rope round my forks and round his middle!!
(can't hardly believe what i've just typed!)

I don't think he felt to good after, but we made it back fine. and it was dark. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 15 May 2012    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tow bikes most weeks on my quad

but we are not on the road so this is no use
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